Arriva Rail North Timetable/Travel Advice on Strike Days

[Starmill]

Using Skipton as example, am I right in thinking that the class 333s normally work in multiples of two? Can they operate as 12 car? By the way, also thanks to Starmill (where are my manners?).

All are four car.

 

[td97]

Are there many chances to double up units on the various lines? I'll admit I am very ignorant about Northern services, but I am interested of course.

Bolton Manchester shuttles get 6 carriages. Definitely more than regular services (2-4). Can use this website to check the number of carriages under CIS Summary Widescreen (but only on the day of travel)

 

[30907]

Is this typical of what's been provided up until now? You get an hourly service from cities to surrounding towns and "the shop shuts" at about 1700 (last trains)? I suppose you can get Saturday shopping done, but it's too tight if attending the football (for instance). (l looked up Skipton, Macclesfield and Buxton as examples).

Fairly typical for the last few weeks. For the first couple of months services had run till about 1900.

 

[Andyh82]

Using Skipton as example, am I right in thinking that the class 333s normally work in multiples of two? Can they operate as 12 car? By the way, also thanks to Starmill (where are my manners?).
Are there many chances to double up units on the various lines? I'll admit I am very ignorant about Northern services, but I am interested of course.

I believe all 333s are only ever run as single units.

 

[HowardGWR]

I believe all 333s are only ever run as single units.

Thanks to all answers. My point I suppose was obvious, but it was that if there is a much reduced frequency of service, it would be very useful if units could double up, so as to reduce overcrowding. Those last trains on the Saturday afternoon are going to be cosy aren't they?

 

[Bungle965]

Thanks to all answers. My point I suppose was obvious, but it was that if there is a much reduced frequency of service, it would be very useful if units could double up, so as to reduce overcrowding. Those last trains on the Saturday afternoon are going to be cosy aren't they?

Coupling up 333s is risky business, they often throw wobbles.
Something you definitely don't want on strike days.
Sam

 

[Mathew S]

Can use this website to check the number of carriages under CIS Summary Widescreen (but only on the day of travel)

Only for some stations, and not even for every service from those stations.

 

[Bevan Price]

Coupling up 333s is risky business, they often throw wobbles.
Something you definitely don't want on strike days.
Sam

Apart from Leeds, I doubt that there are many stations with platforms long enough to accept 2x333 formations.

 

[Kite159]

Apart from Leeds, I doubt that there are many stations with platforms long enough to accept 2x333 formations.

One which spring to mind are the 2 long platforms at Bradford Forster Square, maybe one of the platforms at Shipley [the one where the LNER Bradford service uses], Ilkley.

 

[northernchris]

Bolton Manchester shuttles get 6 carriages. Definitely more than regular services (2-4). Can use this website to check the number of carriages under CIS Summary Widescreen (but only on the day of travel)

Thanks for the link, didn't realise you could obtain train formations in advance

 

[Killingworth]

Only for some stations, and not even for every service from those stations.

And it's not always right - this train had 2 overcrowded coaches and passengers were being told to get the next service. Display says it has 4.

 

[Smidster]

Thanks to all answers. My point I suppose was obvious, but it was that if there is a much reduced frequency of service, it would be very useful if units could double up, so as to reduce overcrowding. Those last trains on the Saturday afternoon are going to be cosy aren't they?

To be honest on the Airedale line (Skipton - Leeds) I don't think there have been overcrowding issues.

I got the penultimate train on the 15th and there were spare seats - the strikes have simply decimated the trade

 

[northernchris]

To be honest on the Airedale line (Skipton - Leeds) I don't think there have been overcrowding issues.

I got the penultimate train on the 15th and there were spare seats - the strikes have simply decimated the trade

When the last train was the 1856 they were some overcrowding issues, one week a replacement bus was sourced for those left behind and another Northern managed to run an additional unadvertised service to transport those unable to board. Finishing at 5pm has certainly reduced passenger numbers though

 

[Bungle965]

And it's not always right - this train had 2 overcrowded coaches and passengers were being told to get the next service. Display says it has 4.

View attachment 57347

I believe they run off what it is booked to be.
It would rely on someone manually changing it in control for instance.
Sam

 

[northernchris]

I believe they run off what it is booked to be.
It would rely on someone manually changing it in control for instance.
Sam

The screens at LNER stations seem to pick up on short forms and show actual formations