ATW drivers told to wear Company tie

[Greenback]

Is it compulsory to wear a tie at all?

 

[313103]

Is it compulsory to wear a tie at all?

At all times on London Overground..................... Unless your a DRIVER!

 

[Greenback]

At all times on London Overground..................... Unless your a DRIVER!

Does that also apply to female staff?

 

[313103]

Does that also apply to female staff?

If they wear the male shirt they have to wear the tie. If they wear a blouse they have to wear a cravat.

 

[Greenback]

I trust male staff can also take advantage of the blouse and cravat option if they so wish?

 

[313103]

I trust male staff can also take advantage of the blouse and cravat option if they so wish?

A nice thought, but i don't think that it would improve the look of men in London Overground, including myself.

 

[Greenback]

A nice thought, but i don't think that it would improve the look of men in London Overground, including myself.

Possibly not, but it should be allowed in order to comply with discrimination laws!

 

[BestWestern]

Possibly not, but it should be allowed in order to comply with discrimination laws!

Hmm, interesting thought that. Who knows what else those butch Drivers get up to in the dark privacy of their cabs?!!

LOL

 

[notadriver]

At all times on London Overground..................... Unless your a DRIVER!

I've seen RPOs in uniform and without ties. One even knocking on the cab doors demanding the driver make annoucements about ticket checks in progress.

 

[Minilad]

Hmm, interesting thought that. Who knows what else those butch Drivers get up to in the dark privacy of their cabs?!!

LOL

Best not go into that. And by the way my name isn't Butch !!

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Hmm, interesting thought that. Who knows what else those butch Drivers get up to in the dark privacy of their cabs?!!

LOL

Wasn't there a Virgin driver who was a bit of a tosser?

 

[313103]

I've seen RPOs in uniform and without ties. One even knocking on the cab doors demanding the driver make announcements about ticket checks in progress.

How often has this happened?
What route was this on?

If you have seen RPIs knocking on the cab doors 'demanding' the driver make ticket check announcements, you have obviously seen something that is very rare. I have even asked RPIs do you want me to make an announcement and they have always said No. They would rather the element of surprise rather then give a passenger advance notice. I know all the RPIs, and whilst i find this could of taken place it is extremely unlikely. I haven't heard anything from the drivers either. But now you have mentioned it i will ask around to see if this is regular thing.

With regard the other issue. Was the train in motion or was it motionless? The reason why i ask is that the RPIs have been told not to interfere with the operation of the train and not to distract or disturb the driver unless it is in a emergency situation.

Again i would say the same thing about the ties, the only time i see the RPIs without ties/cravats is when they are either going to a place of work or finished and off duty.

 

[Sadsmileyface]

Unions don't typically issue safety clip-on ties either, and they're not only worn by drivers, so the idea of using public perception as an excuse is irrelevant. As a member of a union, I fully accept that the privilege of wearing a union tie is entirely at the discretion of the employing TOC, and it's not a right. There's a dress code, and employee's have to adhere to it.

The unions are wrong on this one, I'm afraid.

 

[313103]

Unions don't typically issue safety clip-on ties either.

The RMT do have safety clip on ties as well as the usual style.

 

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Unions don't typically issue safety clip-on ties either, and they're not only worn by drivers, so the idea of using public perception as an excuse is irrelevant. As a member of a union, I fully accept that the privilege of wearing a union tie is entirely at the discretion of the employing TOC, and it's not a right. There's a dress code, and employee's have to adhere to it.

The unions are wrong on this one, I'm afraid.

You are completely ignoring the situation where there is an agreement with the unions that it can be worn!