ATW terminating at New Street? (Turned out to be a clerical error)

[SprinterMan]

Does anyone have any idea why next week 1G31 0715 ex-Holyhead appears to be terminating at New Street instead of International, and if this is not a clerical error what will form 1J15 1208 Birmingham International to Aberystwyth?

EDIT: Turns out the whole thing was a clerical error that has now been resolved

Adam

 

[gordonthemoron]

There are engineering works next week, perhaps that's the reason?

 

[SprinterMan]

There are engineering works next week, perhaps that's the reason?

Ruabon viaduct is shut for an upgrade so everything is running via Crewe, but everything else is still running through to International.

Adam

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

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[SprinterMan]

Actually, 1D17 1923 Birmingham New Street to Chester normally starts from the Airport, so there are 2 trains that aren't running as normal. Does anyone know what the arrangement is?

EDIT: Turns out the whole thing was a clerical error that has now been resolved

Adam

 

[Rich McLean]

Actually, 1D17 1923 Birmingham New Street to Chester normally starts from the Airport, so there are 2 trains that aren't running as normal. Does anyone know what the arrangement is?

Adam

If my mind serves me correctly, on Sundays, some services are 4 car and some are 2 car. Expect a fair bit of splitting to happen at New Street

 

[Geezertronic]

If my mind serves me correctly, on Sundays, some services are 4 car and some are 2 car. Expect a fair bit of splitting to happen at New Street

ATW don't usually split in Birmingham do they?

 

[Rich McLean]

ATW don't usually split in Birmingham do they?

No they don't. Not completely sure what is happening on Sunday though. I think there is a split at International, due to engineering works, as the unit coming down from Chester will not make it in time to form a Cambrian working. So that terminates at New Street. The Previous service from the Cambrian would take all four cars to International and split first 2 cars to Holyhead, with the remaining two later going back to New Street in order to form a 4 car Cambrian service with the Unit from Holyhead. No idea where the unit terminating at New Street is going to be kept between diagrams


Someone who works that route will know a lot more than me. Maybe The Planner knows whats going on

 

[SprinterMan]

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[LNW-GW Joint]

ATW will need an extra unit to run Chester-Wrexham shuttles during the Cefn Mawr works, while the normal trains run via Crewe.
Maybe this is the reason for the turn-rounds at New St.

 

[SprinterMan]

Turns out it was a clerical error, both 1G31 and 1D17 are now showing as running to/from International.

Adam

 

[merlodlliw]

ATW will need an extra unit to run Chester-Wrexham shuttles during the Cefn Mawr works, while the normal trains run via Crewe.
Maybe this is the reason for the turn-rounds at New St.

Correct ATW are running a shuttle between Wrexham & Chester 18 hours a day due to high numbers that board/arrive at Wrexham,plus bus passengers between Shrewsbury & Ruabon that will board the shuttle at Wrexham.

 

[headshot119]

Any idea if it's going to be a 158 or a 175 on the shuttle? Or are we likely to see something a bit more exotic like a 150 ?

 

[Gareth Marston]

Poster up at Newtown saying turning around at New St this Sunday and Monday due to engineering

 

[SprinterMan]

Poster up at Newtown saying turning around at New St this Sunday and Monday due to engineering

They are turning at New Street on Sunday and Monday, but the original train in question was on the thursday and was just one train.

Adam

 

[merlodlliw]

Any idea if it's going to be a 158 or a 175 on the shuttle? Or are we likely to see something a bit more exotic like a 150 ?

I understand it will be a variety(whats spare), certainly a 150 will be used (both Bidston sets stabled at Chester during the engineering),one of these sets will be used when it comes off duty in the early evening(Tue/Sat) for the shuttle, looks very much 150 all day Sunday & Monday only one set required on both days for Bidston.

Bob

 

[headshot119]

Certainly running as a 150 this morning, whether its the same when I come home from work remains to be seen.

 

[PHILIPE]

ATW usually have "pick out of the sky" 150s available for additional work. Also Maintenance schedules can be worked round to provide additional capacity.
An additional 158 has been found here (probably come from the South and replaced by 150 but not sure of this). The 158s involve the Holyhead to Birmingham Ints, the normal working at Shrewsbury for those who may not know:-
Birmingham Int to Holyhead arrive Shrewsbury in Platform 4 as 2x158 (3 on one service) and detach the rear unit which remains in Platform. Some minutes later Holyhead to Birmingham Int (1x158) arrives and attaches to the Unit left in Platform 4 to go forward to Birmingham as 2x158. However, during the occupation the train to Holyhead leaves a couple of minutes later and the train from Holyhead arrives a couple of minutes earlier which means the normal move cannot take place due to the time factor. So, our additional 158 works the Shrewsbury to Crewe locals (vice 153) and the timings of these fit in just nicely.
Train from Crewe arrives XX11 in Platform 7 and the Holyhead to Birmingham arrives and attaches to the rear of it departing from Platform 7 at XX33 as usual. The Birmingham Int to Holyhead kicks off the ear unit as usual in Platform 4 and then works the 14 33 local back to Crewe.