This is exactly what I would do, haha
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Avanti - Trainee Train Drivers - Multiple Locations (28/02/23)
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What exactly do you do? Are you waiting for a place on a course or are you a driver with another TOC?
Chippychips
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Both. Im a trainee driver for a TOC, but also waiting for a course with another TOC(s) whom I'm in talent pools for.
I haven't done my 225 hours yet so im still "unlicenced".
First OPC
Good evening all,
I appreciate some of you are nervous and anxious about what might be a life-changing opportunity. This passion and interest has sometimes led to some remarks and posts which have become somewhat confrontational at times in this thread. Please do remember that trainee driver adverts always take time to process and there are thousands of applicants involved. Please do try to be patient - posting about it isn't going to make it go quicker. Many of you are in the same situation and I ask that you please respect each other and the forum rules going forward. Anyone that has any concerns can use the "Report" function on a post if they feel it isn't in line with these rules.
Thank you.
I appreciate some of you are nervous and anxious about what might be a life-changing opportunity. This passion and interest has sometimes led to some remarks and posts which have become somewhat confrontational at times in this thread. Please do remember that trainee driver adverts always take time to process and there are thousands of applicants involved. Please do try to be patient - posting about it isn't going to make it go quicker. Many of you are in the same situation and I ask that you please respect each other and the forum rules going forward. Anyone that has any concerns can use the "Report" function on a post if they feel it isn't in line with these rules.
Thank you.
JollofAndFanta
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Did anyone here not use a mouse for the vse? I'm still yet to do mine lol
Hi mate. Is the VSE and M7 the same format as the practice test? With the letters and the squares etc
nolypops83
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I think the tests themselves do a good enough job of sifting the applicants, they are difficult enough that many people don't even get to the test centre for the in-person tests. There would be no reason for them to make the process any more complicated. You either pass or you don't.I have been reading both main threads on this site.
I completely understand why people might be worried and uncertain.
Based on the October intake it looked like there were lots of initial passes then people started to get rejection letters. (The same has happened here) Then a lot of the thread after that is talk of the next stage. I browsed a few more posts but there wasn't any obvious mention of people then being accepted. I am sure there must have been, but most of the talk was of the next two assessments. From that it would be easy to conclude that if you haven't heard back within that time then you have probably not been successful.
I have applied for a fair few jobs using online sifts like this and usually there is a timescale for replying. Most say within 10 working days etc. It seems like a common courtesy to do this for applicants.
There are other online applications that have people on hold for months on end before replying, which isn't how any professional organisation should run.
A few thoughts on what might be happening based on my prior experience with other jobs.
First of all it is an online electronic assessment which means they can have instant results.
So people are obviously now wondering why they can't know straight away.
There are many reasons for this. It could be that those already informed of the next stage were high alignment candidates which means they passed an upper limit on the bar and were automatically selected for the next stage. Others may have had an immediate rejection based on not having enough alignment.
The remaining candidates could now be going through an ongoing sift to see where they stand against the rest of the cohort and previous assessment levels. Decisions are usually then made on a 1 by 1 basis. At the same time the next stage is monitored and if not enough candidates are passing to move onto the further stages they will invite then next level of aligned candidates.
This goes on until enough people have passed the next two tests. The remaining candidates may then be informed they haven't been successful.
One application I put in had over 5000 in the first sift, 2000 in the second, 800 in the third, I believe the 4th was 200. They have to draw the line somewhere.
It could also be that they are doing the process by the order people have taken the tests but I can't see a pattern that would suggest this.
Anyway i have had two emails today to say that i have the 28 day wait for my depots which was interesting because although i applied to more than one I only got one invite to OPC. It had me wondering if some people had actually created 2 accounts to apply to multiple depots which was why they had multiple invites to the OPC.
Feel free to completely ignore my opinion by the way.
JollofAndFanta
Member
Ngl I've just been going over some materials I've been finding on YouTube here and there, my deadline is tmor 5pm
Oh
When's yours?
Mines due for the 29th only got the email today. Seems not too bad like.
JollofAndFanta
Member
Yeah fair I got mines on the 16th, good luck you got this
I will have to double check for this one then. Thank you for letting me know
29th deadline
Runner1708
Member
Anyone heard anything for Manchester?
Nope. Soon as I do, I will post. Keeping everything crossed.
Chippychips
Member
The process isn't fully automated, it still takes human-input to check and send the "batch" emails out.
As I said "logistical or admin" reasons, how big do you think their server is?
If the link was immediately sent to EVERYONE, automatically, what happens to a server when it has too much traffic?
(Unlike the past, this was probably Avantis biggest and longest recruitment drive. Record number of applicants over the 1+week window- hard to cope and manage so you bottleneck it)
The 28 days is courtesy.
They absolutely cannot tell you score results. Not at any stage. Its either "you passed and here's the next stage" or "you failed unfortunately try again in 6 months".
nolypops83
Member
Keep your eyes on this forum, a few of us from Manchester who are waiting. I've had an email to say expect to wait up to 28 days so it might be a while yet.
PF19
Member
So as an update, I've not received an email in any capacity since the first 5 tests, no 28 day one or rejection etc!
Deadline was 14th completed on 11th
No news is good news! Least that's what I'm telling myself...
Edit: Manchester applicant
Deadline was 14th completed on 11th
No news is good news! Least that's what I'm telling myself...
Edit: Manchester applicant
jdm365sito
Member
Technically it doesn't need any human input, I write programs daily that fully automate this. Easy enough for a computer to analyse results then write a program in 20 minutes to then send out a default pass or fail email to the recipient. Sorry not being "aggy" just wanted to input ha ha!
Got to do the next stage of tests but waiting till I'm fully fresh to do these, good luck to all those who are doing or have done them!
nolypops83
Member
Oh it’s definitely possible but remember there are companies that still use paper forms and fax machines.
I just did a bit of digging and apparently the OPC has 12 members of staff. That’s according to their tax return.
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jdm365sito
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True,Oh it’s definitely possible but remember there are companies that still use paper forms and fax machines.
I just did a bit of digging and apparently the OPC has 12 members of staff. That’s according to their tax return.
if they have 12 members then I do hope it's automated otherwise they must be working 24/7!
I applied to both Manchester and Liverpool. Tommystop.
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I’ve just received email for Manchester to say I’m unsuccessful at this stage…. Good luck to everyone else
Oh it’s definitely possible but remember there are companies that still use paper forms and fax machines.
I just did a bit of digging and apparently the OPC has 12 members of staff. That’s according to their tax return.
that's brilliant!! Ha ha.. 12 members of staff for thousands of applications..goshSame! To be honest I'm just glad to be able to draw a line under it all now
Not seen anyone for Polmadie yet think a few people have had the 28 day email that’s all.