Avanti West Coast Rolling Stock Updates

[Blindtraveler]

So unless there is another stockroom type fridge elsewhere on the train they could quite easily kill the catering operation off in a death of a thousand cuts type Way by simply selling out quickly. I wonder if after the first few unit 2 done they will modify something within the catering vehicle to increase capacity

 

[Liam L]

No allocations for 390123 or 125 today, going off the searches I’ve just done on RTT.

 

[Bletchleyite]

When your attempt to order a bacon buttie before Edge Hill (on a morning departure from Lime St.), fails because "they've already sold out", that beggars belief!

True story, the host said they only loaded about 20 at Lime St., pathetic on a Saturday morning train when there's lots going to the footie in London, (I'm not a red or a blue).

That says "can't be bothered" - there are lots of ways that sort of thing could be solved, such as storing stuff in freezers at Crewe and loading based on demand.

 

[skyhigh]

No allocations for 390123 or 125 today, going off the searches I’ve just done on RTT.

123 - at Longsight
125 - at Oxley Car.

 

[JakeMurphy]

123 - at Longsight
125 - at Oxley Car.

125 could be called into action replacing 390045 which has failed on 9S70.

 

[voyagerdude220]

125 could be called into action replacing 390045 which has failed on 9S70.

Looks to be 390009 on 9S70.

 

[Trackman]

Looks to be 390009 on 9S70.

I’m guess it was 009 as it’s just left Edinburgh.

 

[JakeMurphy]

Looks to be 390009 on 9S70.

Fair enough haha it was me being
Optimistic

 

[Some guy]

Another day of the 2 refurbished pendos not running. It must be the case that staff who aren’t trained on them are refusing to work them

 

[skyhigh]

It must be the case that staff who aren’t trained on them are refusing to work them

Must it...?

123 is showing as on Longsight for maintenance (note not just stabled) since the night of 09/05.
125 has been on Oxley since 07/05.

It doesn't necessarily follow that 125 has been there 5 days due to staff refusing to work them...

 

[Huntergreed]

390155 now out of widnes and moved to longsight

 

[JakeMurphy]

390155 now out of widnes and moved to longsight

Wonder who’s next

 

[Trackman]

390155 now out of widnes and moved to longsight

Joining its sisters on the sidings until the microwave oven training (or whatever it is) is sorted out.

 

[Some guy]

Must it...?

123 is showing as on Longsight for maintenance (note not just stabled) since the night of 09/05.
125 has been on Oxley since 07/05.

It doesn't necessarily follow that 125 has been there 5 days due to staff refusing to work them...

It’s a bit strange. Surely if you got something brand new to show off you’d have it running

 

[350101]

390123 is shown on RTT to be on the 1107 Euston - Liverpool

 

[jfollows]

390123 is shown on RTT to be on the 1107 Euston - Liverpool

...having got from Longsight via 1A12 08:15 Piccadilly-Euston (https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C75418/2022-05-13/detailed#allox_id=0)
EDIT ... and 5K05 Longsight-Crewe for 1H50 07:10 Crewe-Piccadilly earlier on (https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C75550/2022-05-13/detailed#allox_id=0), a train I have sometimes used myself for getting into Manchester

 

[Peter0124]

390123 is shown on RTT to be on the 1107 Euston - Liverpool

Also shown to work 16.57 Euston to Glasgow later

 

[jfollows]

The other one, 390125, is on 5R14 for 1R14 Wolverhampton-Euston, 1F13 09:07 Euston-Liverpool and back, then 1H32 14:56 Euston-Piccadilly and back, then 1P07 20:30 Euston-Preston, then empty to Longsight.
So 390125 will end up in Longsight tonight, 390123 in Polmadie

 

[Philip]

Must it...?

123 is showing as on Longsight for maintenance (note not just stabled) since the night of 09/05.
125 has been on Oxley since 07/05.

It doesn't necessarily follow that 125 has been there 5 days due to staff refusing to work them...

Does a train need 5 days of maintenance? I thought usually when a train is booked for maintenance it is usually just a day and then back into service the next morning? If a train is in the depot for a few days or more it sounds like it could be a fault or that they don't want the unit in service.

 

[Agent_Squash]

Does a train need 5 days of maintenance? I thought usually when a train is booked for maintenance it is usually just a day and then back into service the next morning? If a train is in the depot for a few days or more it sounds like it could be a fault or that they don't want the unit in service.

Perhaps they were showing the fitters how to use the microwave as well?

 

[43096]

Does a train need 5 days of maintenance? I thought usually when a train is booked for maintenance it is usually just a day and then back into service the next morning? If a train is in the depot for a few days or more it sounds like it could be a fault or that they don't want the unit in service.

It depends on what maintenance regime a train is on, but all trains will have maintenance exams that take longer than a day. The heaviest exams (short of overhaul level work) will likely take several days.

 

[Huntergreed]

So I’m right in saying that’s 4 done now?

390125
390123
390148
390155

And 390156 is being done now?

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Does a train need 5 days of maintenance? I thought usually when a train is booked for maintenance it is usually just a day and then back into service the next morning? If a train is in the depot for a few days or more it sounds like it could be a fault or that they don't want the unit in service.

Might be on exam?

 

[SansHache]

So I’m right in saying that’s 4 done now?

390125
390123
390148
390155

And 390156 is being done now?

Correct. There should be another train due to go into Widnes in the next few days.

 

[Trackman]

How long was 390155 in for?
I’ve searched this thread but to no avail.
just trying to suss out a current turnaround time.

 

[Huntergreed]

Took a ride on 390123 this evening.

Padding on seats still quite hard, but this will improve through time.

The updated PIS screens were not working, and the shop was accepting cash only (Wi-Fi issues the staff said was the cause).

Had an interesting chat with the TM and a member of shop staff. They told me that they’ve completed E-training (including use of an oculus rift VR device to walk around the train using virtual reality), but there has been no in-person onboard training.

Apparently they are waiting to find a company who will provide water for the free water filler. As a result, they’ve been told they cannot give out free water but CAN give out free tea and coffee if a customer cannot pay by cash. Ridiculous in my view.

All staff members I spoke to were based in Glasgow, boarded at Preston and had no idea they were boarding one of the refurbished sets. Crazy!

Photos attached:

 

[Peter0124]

I also took a ride on 390123! (Short hop between Motherwell and Glasgow).

I noticed that Coach G is now a standard class coach.

The fold down tables (airline seats) are an improvement on the older ones, bigger etc. The interior feels more modern too, with new screens at the carriage ends.

I'll aim to get a longer journey on these in the near future to see what I really think.

 

[SansHache]

How long was 390155 in for?
I’ve searched this thread but to no avail.
just trying to suss out a current turnaround time.

390155 arrived at Widnes on 18th March and came out on 12th May.
390156 arrived at Widnes on 23rd April.

 

[MP393]

390148 showing as working 1R03 0555 Manchester - Euston this morning (14/05). Is this it’s first work since being refurbed?

 

[43102EMR]

390148 showing as working 1R03 0555 Manchester - Euston this morning (14/05). Is this it’s first work since being refurbed?

Sounds like it - it’s been parked up at Longsight for a while…