Aictos
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Has anyone travel with a joint Lufthansa/DB ticket at all ie fly Heathrow to Frankfurt with Lufthansa then board a DB ICE to Cologne etc?
Anyone got any strong recommendations between Air Canada and BA? Comparing the two as both seem best value for flights to vancouver direct anyway. Still very deep in comparing prices.
Anyone got any strong recommendations between Air Canada and BA? Comparing the two as both seem best value for flights to vancouver direct anyway. Still very deep in comparing prices.
BA Cityflyer at least normally divert to Southend (because there's space for an aircraft to park up and wait on maintenance). Last minute medical emergencies they'll just continue into LCY for.Re emergencies, any in the London area are normally routed to Heathrow/Gatwick/Stansted/Luton, as pilots/aircraft not using LCY typically aren't set up for the steep approach. Exception is if an aeroplane which has taken off from LCY encounters an issue below a certain altitude threshold.
Indeed that is what I am currently thinking. The only thing in my head is that I think the September LHR to Vancouver flights are A380s which I've always wanted to go on but haven't managed to yet. No real prospect of me heading anywhere other than North America anytime soon so wondered if this was my chance. Suppose BA fly A380s to plenty of other NA destinations.
Not sure if you'd look/would consider, but I was looking at fares to Vancouver last year for my parents and Air Transat had some very decent fares on their Manchester/Gatwick - Vancouver services, also WestJet from Gatwick on their new 787s. No idea what both of those are like, but I'd probably tolerate for a good price
For those who have had actually used flights where you have to connect between flights, how does that work in the EU for example?
Say I want to fly to Cologne then get a connecting flight to Berlin rather then fly direct to Berlin or if I want to fly to Helsinki to get a connecting flight to Tallinn, I'm aware of point to point flights but if I'm connecting between flights, do I have to clear security twice?
eg once when I leave the UK and when I get to the country in which I get my connecting flight? I've never actually had to connect between flights as I usually just get simple point to point flights so do I just stay "airside" etc...
Also anyone here used Cologne Bonn, Dusseldorf, Hamburg or Dortmund before for any flights?
For those who have had actually used flights where you have to connect between flights, how does that work in the EU for example?
Say I want to fly to Cologne then get a connecting flight to Berlin rather then fly direct to Berlin or if I want to fly to Helsinki to get a connecting flight to Tallinn, I'm aware of point to point flights but if I'm connecting between flights, do I have to clear security twice?
eg once when I leave the UK and when I get to the country in which I get my connecting flight? I've never actually had to connect between flights as I usually just get simple point to point flights so do I just stay "airside" etc...
Also anyone here used Cologne Bonn, Dusseldorf, Hamburg or Dortmund before for any flights?
If you are arriving from outside the EU, you may well have to go through security when connecting to another flight, as the rules vary from region to region. At some airports, you always go through security when connecting, such as Heathrow Terminal 5.
On the topic of connections, I've got a query actually.
In November I connect out of a BA 320 at Frankfurt onto a Japan Airlines 787 to Tokyo Narita. It's a relatively short connection, about 90 minutes from memory, in which time I basically intend to de-plane, stretch the legs, get some Western food and a German beer (or two, if time allows) and board the next plane.
Now as it's two different airlines on a through booking, this raises some questions which I wish I had asked a while ago. So here we go:
1) I intend to take hold luggage with me, as I want to bring some bits and bobs back and I don't reckon cabin baggage will be sufficient for those and clothes etc. As the booking involves two different airlines in the same alliance (OneWorld) will I need to collect my holdall at Frankfurt and re-check it? If so this will eat away a lot of my connection. I'm expecting it will be through-checked, but it would be good to know in advance.
2) I can easily get my BA boarding pass in the BA app, but how will check-in work for the Japan Airlines flight?
3) What would happen if I'm delayed out of Heathrow? I'm only in Tokyo for a couple of days so any delay will be unwelcome. I'm guessing it would be a case of seeing the BA deals at Frankfurt, but again it would be nice to have an idea in advance.
Bear in mind my first ever connecting flight was only done in March 2019 so I'm still new at this connecting flights thing!
If you are arriving from outside the EU, you may well have to go through security when connecting to another flight, as the rules vary from region to region. At some airports, you always go through security when connecting, such as Heathrow Terminal 5.
T5 make you go through a boarding pass check and security both ways.The principle is roughly:
UK airport security only trusts other UK airport security, so on a domestic (I don't know about T5) you often get let straight out into the departure lounge. Though there are airports (e.g. Edinburgh) where depending where you arrive you may or may not have to reclear security.
Most other EU countries trust other EU countries including the UK (even though this is not reciprocal), so if for instance you fly from the UK to Geneva you will probably get let straight out into the departure lounge. However if you get bussed to the terminal you will need to reclear security as there is no separation between flights from different origins there.
So the principle is that you should probably leave enough time for security even if you don't need it (go for a coffee if the time is spare) as you can never be 100% sure. That said, I think the "long security queues" thing is a relative myth, I can only recall waiting more than about 10 minutes once, and that was at Luton when there had been serious issues on the M1 and MML so about 1000 people arrived at once when they both cleared.
If you have to collect and recheck bags you WILL have to reclear security, though.
T5 doesn't make you go through security if you've arrived off a domestic flight into T5. Still have the conformance boarding pass check, but no security. You come out by the anonymous looking double door by the Spoons, towards the centre of the terminal, with flight departure screens that seem randomly located if you don't know that opposite. I can guarantee you this is true because I've done it about half a dozen times a year for the previous five years or so!T5 make you go through a boarding pass check and security both ways.
T5 doesn't make you go through security if you've arrived off a domestic flight into T5. Still have the conformance boarding pass check, but no security. You come out by the anonymous looking double door by the Spoons, towards the centre of the terminal, with flight departure screens that seem randomly located if you don't know that opposite. I can guarantee you this is true because I've done it about half a dozen times a year for the previous five years or so!
Out of interest, how are arrivals at Heathrow T5 from the non-UK parts of the Common Travel Area handled (Republic of Ireland only relevant here it seems) - no passport control for sure but do they make passengers reclear security if they're connecting onwards?
With regards to UK to Ireland, are those flights classed as domestic flights?
Arrivals into UK
Separate arrivals corridor which brings arriving passengers into the international baggage hall, bypassing immigration. Passengers then pass through customs to landside.
Flight Connections:
Separate flight connections corridor and passengers reclear security.
Yes, your luggage will be checked through. You won't have to collect it in Frankfurt.
I can't say for sure as arrangements vary between airlines, and I'm not sure how well integrated BA and JAL are. Probably you will be able to get a boarding pass via the Japan Airlines app or webpage. You might need to check your booking for a specific JAL booking code, which you can use for this. Alternatively, BA might issue one via their app or website. Digging around the BA and JAL websites might provide some information in advance (try your booking code in the JAL "manage your booking" page now), and you can see what Google says, of course.
If this is not possible, you will almost certainly get a boarding pass for the JAL flight when you check in at Heathrow. In principle, this might not be possible and you'd have to collect it at a transfer desk in Frankfurt, but this has never happened to me and I've connected many times at many airports with many different airlines.
If you have a through ticket, it's the airline's (or airlines') responsibility to get you to your destination. They should put you on the next available flight (possibly with a connection, if that's the best option), and if the delay is long they should look after you in the mean time, such as providing food vouchers and a hotel room. If you are delayed at Heathrow, you can already talk to a transfer or service desk there as they may already be able to arrange something if it's clear you're going to miss the connection. If you arrive in Frankfurt and miss the JAL flight, go to a JAL or BA desk and they will make the arrangements. There's no need for you to check for deals yourself.
It's not uncommon for you to be automatically rebooked if you are delayed. Watch for messages on your phone. I've even had a person waiting at the arrival gate with a new boarding pass for me.
Just to note that 90 minutes is plenty of time to connect in Frankfurt, but it's not a lot of time to get a meal and a couple of beers as well - watch the boarding time carefully and make sure you know how far it is from the bar to the gate.
Good advice that, I'll see what pops up in Manage My Booking on the BA app. Something I can get cracking on with this evening while I'm still in prep mode for holidays. Nearly organised for Budapest (arriving there in just 13 days time and I still haven't looked at what I'm going to do there yet!) and apart from the last minute bits I'm all packed for that trip now. So I might as well start getting ready for Tokyo!
Aye come to think of it I couldn't check in online for my Virgin Australia leg on my Australia trip and only got a boarding pass when at the transfer desk. What I might do, if nothing else, is tweet BA directly for their input too, I mean it can't hurt to tweet the airline.
The food and drink bit in Frankfurt, I'm not looking to have a full blown meal, just something fairly fast and easy but enjoyable. Bratwurst or something similar, and the beer may not happen anyway but if time is short just a half will be sufficient to wash down the food.
I've never tried Japanese food so I've no idea what JAL will have to offer on board. Therefore I'm quite keen to make sure I have something nice to eat before I board.
Unlikely that easyJet will rebook you on a different airline. EasyJet will either rebook you for the previous day - but if that’s impractical then you should be entitled to a full refund.Hey all, sorry to hijack this but looking for advice. Just had an email from easyJet, my flight from Berlin in January has been cancelled. Just wondering where I stand on this, I can change the flight to the previous day for free but I cannot travel that day. Would they rebook me with another airline for th same day? Never had this happen before so no idea what to do. Thanks!