BLS The Ore No More - 23/04/22

trainmania100 · 11 Jan 2022

Finally a bit of decent action for Brighton, Newhaven, south coast.

https://branchline.uk/fixture_set_id.php?id=336

Loco hauled exploration of the South Coast from Eastleigh, including Portsmouth, Bognor Regis, Littlehampton, Cliftonville Spur, Newhaven Marine, Brighton, Eastbourne, Hastings, Ore Up Sidings, Tonbridge and Gatwick.

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Devonman2014 · 11 Jan 2022

trainmania100 said:
Finally a bit of decent action for Brighton, Newhaven, south coast.

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Any guesses for operator? Assume GBRf or DBC, 73s perhaps. 69s too much to hope for?

Interesting provisional routing, cliftonville to Newhaven then Brighton then Eastbourne,

Guessing it either reverses at Preston park then goes Brighton Newhaven Brighton, or it does the plumpton line outward .

None the less a day of chasing for me

If it transpires of course, with all Resource issues operators are having wouldn’t be surprised if it is canned until later in year.

also would of thought it would be advertised and open for bookings by now ?

Admit will be a nice tour if it does come off ….

Iskra · 12 Jan 2022

My guess would be GBRF with 73's and possibly 20's. Could be a 66 though

Looks an interesting tour, but I doubt I will make that one due to the travel time to the joining stations.

MiNi · 12 Jan 2022

I would agree GBRF is likely. But maybe this one for TNT 33's,a wcrc one and the Swanage one ?. Empties from Southall.

trainmania100 · 12 Jan 2022

One thing you hardly ever see is WCR route learners, especially down here in Sussex. How do WCR do all these excursions and while dB and GBRf route learners are pretty frequent, WCR route learner light engine runs are nonexistent?

Obviously it's unlikely the tour will go into the new aggregate terminal, it's not particularly big and there's a gate at the start of it. But it must have been years since WCR drivers last went into marine,

I suppose they just 'hitch a ride' with a passenger train from time to time?

D6130 · 12 Jan 2022

MiNi said:
Empties from Southall.

If the empties are coming from Southall, surely that means it will be West Coast locos and stock.....maybe a 33 at one end and a 47/57 at the other? I don't know whether it's still the case, but twenty-odd years ago West Coast drivers were using videos for road learning.

MiNi · 12 Jan 2022

D6130 said:
If the empties are coming from Southall, surely that means it will be West Coast locos and stock.....maybe a 33 at one end and a 47/57 at the other? I don't know whether it's still the case, but twenty-odd years ago West Coast drivers were using videos for road learning.

I would have thought that it would be West Coast locos and stock if the empties do come from Southall. I would think it would be open for booking by the end of the month,we will see then.

Kite159 · 12 Jan 2022

Sounds like it could be for an interesting tour, assuming it runs.

Something for me to keep an eye out when details are released, now only if I could remember the way to reach Eastleigh station from the M3 :lol:

trainmania100 · 12 Jan 2022

Kite159 said:
Now only if I could remember the way to reach Eastleigh station from the M3

Guessing some sort of joke? Lol

VEP3417 · 14 Jan 2022

i keep meaning to go on a tour of some sort, ones down this way usually start from eastleigh but most around 6.30 or so am, would be fine if there was a cheap hotel or something near the station but the one opposite was £100 a night when i last looked :lol:

ill keep an eye on this tour anyway
shame as the bsl tour from london to waymouth with 73s and a 4tc got cancelled last year or so and hasnt been re instated

fgwrich · 14 Jan 2022

VEP3417 said:
i keep meaning to go on a tour of some sort, ones down this way usually start from eastleigh but most around 6.30 or so am, would be fine if there was a cheap hotel or something near the station but the one opposite was £100 a night when i last looked

ill keep an eye on this tour anyway
shame as the bsl tour from london to waymouth with 73s and a 4tc got cancelled last year or so and hasnt been re instated

£100 for a room in the Trave-lodge? o_O

nanstallon · 14 Jan 2022

fgwrich said:
£100 for a room in the Trave-lodge?

Perhaps they knew there was a railtour, and demand would be high. Travelodge can be expensive - try booking one anywhere near Silverstone when a Formula One Grand Prix is scheduled there.

75A · 14 Jan 2022

that's called business - supply & demand.

VEP3417 · 15 Jan 2022

yes i was a bit surprised but thats life i suppose, its a bit of a tricky one as to booking in advance as going on a railtour can be a last minute decision :lol:

MiNi · 15 Jan 2022

VEP3417 said:
yes i was a bit surprised but thats life i suppose, its a bit of a tricky one as to booking in advance as going on a railtour can be a last minute decision

if the tour details/times are out a couple of months before with the type of locos. You should be ok.

FOCTOC · 15 Jan 2022

MiNi said:
I would agree GBRF is likely. But maybe this one for TNT 33's,a wcrc one and the Swanage one ?. Empties from Southall.

Where does it state ECS from Southall?

MiNi · 15 Jan 2022

It doesn't. Just thinking along those lines.

VEP3417 · 16 Jan 2022

MiNi said:
if the tour details/times are out a couple of months before with the type of locos. You should be ok.

i meant from my point of view, choosing to actually go on it can be a last minute decision, only a few days before the tour, so booking somewhere in advance isnt always possible

FOCTOC · 16 Jan 2022

MiNi said:
It doesn't. Just thinking along those lines.

Riviera Trains keep a set of Mk1's in Eastleigh Works. Would it not make sense to use those?? I just love how people put 2+2 together and come up with so many scenarios totalling 5 and above.

JonathanH · 16 Jan 2022

FOCTOC said:
Riviera Trains keep a set of Mk1's in Eastleigh Works. Would it not make sense to use those?? I just love how people put 2+2 together and come up with so many scenarios totalling 5 and above.

Those coaches have been moved to Burton on Trent and are no longer kept at Eastleigh.

66084 + 66020 - Wichnor Junction, Staffordshire

DB Cargo Class 66 diesel locomotives 66084 and 66020 double head 16 Mark 1 carriages past Wichnor Junction forming 5Z45 09.40 Eastleigh Arlington to Burton Wetmore Sidings

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However, I do agree that there isn't much purpose to speculation at present, with hopefully details emerging with the publication of Branch Line News shortly whenever they are ready. (I think it is now convention that tour details are published concurrently with the release of that publication.)

MiNi · 16 Jan 2022

FOCTOC said:
Riviera Trains keep a set of Mk1's in Eastleigh Works. Would it not make sense to use those?? I just love how people put 2+2 together and come up with so many scenarios totalling 5 and above.

yes those 16 coaches were moved during the week,so can't be that stock. We will wait and see where the Loco and stock comes from.

FOCTOC · 16 Jan 2022

MiNi said:
yes those 16 coaches were moved during the week,so can't be that stock. We will wait and see where the Loco and stock comes from.

Didn't know that! Every days a school day.

Of course, no reason the BLS couldn't use a unit I guess - devil's advocate time.

JonathanH · 16 Jan 2022

FOCTOC said:
Of course, no reason the BLS couldn't use a unit I guess - devil's advocate time.

The tour is 'advertised' as being loco-hauled though.

Kite159 · 16 Jan 2022

VEP3417 said:
i keep meaning to go on a tour of some sort, ones down this way usually start from eastleigh but most around 6.30 or so am, would be fine if there was a cheap hotel or something near the station but the one opposite was £100 a night when i last looked

ill keep an eye on this tour anyway
shame as the bsl tour from london to waymouth with 73s and a 4tc got cancelled last year or so and hasnt been re instated

That Eastleigh Travelodge can be expensive most Friday/Saturday nights, without a railtour running.

Add on extra bookings (hopefully people being sensible with the flex rates) from a railtour (because it is the ideal location for Eastleigh station) and prices will increase.

zwk500 · 16 Jan 2022

MiNi said:
yes those 16 coaches were moved during the week,so can't be that stock. We will wait and see where the Loco and stock comes from.

They can move 10 of them back to Eastleigh for the tour. Operators have run far longer ECS moves for tours in the past. I've got no idea who is running it, or where the stock will be coming from though.

Biscuit 56 · 20 Jan 2022

Top and Tail 50s apparently

75A · 20 Jan 2022

50021 Rodney was in Eastleigh Yard on the 18th: 47s and other Classic Power at Southampton (47soton.co.uk)

fgwrich · 20 Jan 2022

75A said:
50021 Rodney was in Eastleigh Yard on the 18th: 47s and other Classic Power at Southampton (47soton.co.uk)

50021 lives at the works along with 50026 - both locos are owned by Paul Spracken.

D6130 · 21 Jan 2022

Are both 50 021 and 50 026 main line certified?

Biscuit 56 · 21 Jan 2022

Don’t think they are, it’s going to be 50008 & a fifty alliance one

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