BREL stock abroad

[Cam317]

I have seen that BREL built a modified class 158 for Thailand Railways, what other countries (particulary in Asia) currently use ex-BR stock or BR built trains?

 

[StephenHunter]

Mexico has the HSTs that have just gone over there.

The Australian XPT is based on the HST, but was locally built; Poland still has locomotives based on the Class 83.

 

[Gag Halfrunt]

The Taiwan Railways Administration had the EMU100 class, which operated from 1979 to 2009. They were based on the Mark 2 bodyshell and were built at York.

I've read that Kenya and Tanzania bought metre gauge coaches based on the Mark 2.

Then there are the heavily-rebuilt Mark 2 coaches in New Zealand.

 

[popeter45]

Iran used class 141's for a while
denmark use to have a few mark 3 SLE's
Ireland had alot of BREL in term of Mark 2 and Mark 3 stock
there was even a UIC carriage made for the president of Gabon as part of a push to sell overseas

BREL International train

 

[Snow1964]

South Africa has Gautrain, first few were built in UK, rest locally which is based on Electrostar, although these are few years after BREL ownership

 

[Polarbear]

New Zealand operate some converted Mk2 coaches from BR days, though they are barely recognisable as such.

 

[12LDA28C]

I believe this has been discussed in a previous thread which you should be able to find using the Search function. New Zealand operates (or has done) various ex-BR Mark 2 coaching stock.

New Zealand operate some converted Mk2 coaches from BR days, though they are barely recognisable as such.

Quite recognisable, at least from the outside, not least because as I recall they retain their original numbers although the interior has been modified extensively.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Three Mk3s were sent to Switzerland to be used by SIG for tilting technology. Pictures thereof are, however, relatively hard to obtain.

 

[Richard Scott]

Three Mk3s were sent to Switzerland to be used by SIG for tilting technology. Pictures thereof are, however, relatively hard to obtain.

Some mk 3 sleeper coaches were also hired to Danish Railways for a period of time.
There are a couple of 56s in Hungary, along with some 86s. Also 86s and 87s in Bulgaria, were 87s a BREL product or did they precede BREL?
Believe some 58s still extant in Spain?

 

[43096]

Some mk 3 sleeper coaches were also hired to Danish Railways for a period of time.
There are a couple of 56s in Hungary, along with some 86s. Also 86s and 87s in Bulgaria, were 87s a BREL product or did they precede BREL?
Believe some 58s still extant in Spain?

87s were BREL built.

 

[MarcVD]

8 mk2 cars were purchased by Israel Railways from BR in 1977. Now retired, one is preserved in Haifa museum.

 

[Richard Scott]

8 mk2 cars were purchased by Israel Railways from BR in 1977. Now retired, one is preserved in Haifa museum.

A number were purchased by Irish Railways too along with mk3s although believe some were assembled at Inchicore works?
Don't suppose DEMUs used in Northern Ireland count as still UK?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Don't forget the New Zealand Mk2s, albeit they were so heavily rebuilt as to be very difficult to recognise.

 

[12LDA28C]

Don't forget the New Zealand Mk2s, albeit they were so heavily rebuilt as to be very difficult to recognise.

Already mentioned twice in this thread in post #6 and #7

 

[70014IronDuke]

8 mk2 cars were purchased by Israel Railways from BR in 1977. Now retired, one is preserved in Haifa museum.

These were early Mk2s, as I remember, certainly not air-con jobs. 2As perhaps? I rode in one from Haifa to Jerusalem in about 1983 when it was one train e/w per day.

A number were purchased by Irish Railways too along with mk3s although believe some were assembled at Inchicore works?

Don't know about the Mk3s - IIRC, the Mk2s was for an order of 53 (?) Mk2D or Es, built at Derby Litchurch Lane in 1970 and perhaps into 71. I'm pretty sure all were built at Derby, along with Irish gauge B4 bogies (obviously only fitted over the water)!

Very similar time to when the first Edinburgh-Glasgow push-pull Mk2 sets were refurbished for that job - to work with 2 x Cl 27s.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Already mentioned twice in this thread in post #6 and #7

Oh I somehow missed that!!

 

[hexagon789]

These were early Mk2s, as I remember, certainly not air-con jobs. 2As perhaps? I rode in one from Haifa to Jerusalem in about 1983 when it was one train e/w per day.

2C but they were retrofitted with aircon units when in Israel.

A number were purchased by Irish Railways too along with mk3s although believe some were assembled at Inchicore works?
Don't suppose DEMUs used in Northern Ireland count as still UK?

They had Mk2Ds* and Mk3s as new with the first 56 Mk3s built at Derby, the rest at Inchicore either for finishing or from knocked down kits. IÉ also obtained some second hand 2Z/A/B/C in the early 1990s from Vic Berry scrapyard in exchange for withdrawn locomotives - enough for two sets of 7 coaches which ran with the so-called 'Dutch' generator vans.

One ex-HST Mk3 was also obtained in the 2000s for use as a push-pull set buffet car, when the formerly outer suburban push-pull sets began to transfer to certain second rank InterCity duties as new suburban DMUs from CAF entered traffic.

(*see below)

Don't know about the Mk3s - IIRC, the Mk2s was for an order of 53 (?) Mk2D or Es, built at Derby Litchurch Lane in 1970 and perhaps into 71. I'm pretty sure all were built at Derby, along with Irish gauge B4 bogies (obviously only fitted over the water)!

124 Mk3s (effectively 3B design) and 73 Mk2Ds*

(They are usually referred to as 2D, presumably because they were roughly contemporary to those when ordered, but design wise were actually more a hybrid of 2E (with diagonally opposite toilets in Standard Class) and 2F with fully seperate air-conditioning instead of the 2D/E design of pressure ventilation and electric heating with air-con added on top.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Iran used class 141's for a while

Besides the retired 141s sold on to Iran, there was supposedly a 141-derived unit which toured South East Asia in the hope of securing orders. Think it had 3ft gauge wheelsets (or at least non-standard) but can't recall where I read that detail. Supposedly it finished up somewhere in Indonesia and its fate is unknown. Was a power-trailer set so would have had all the poke of a poundland desk fan!

There was also one of the LEVs (Leyland Experimental Vehicle) which was trialled by SEPTA (Southeastern Pennsylvania Transit Authority) on the Fox Chase line near Philadelphia. Believe it ran a single return trip in which it was discovered that it was too lightweight to trigger level crossings. The vehicle is or was stored at a museum in Scranton, PA (the home city of the US version of The Office).

 

[StephenHunter]

The Nightstar stock that ended up in Canada was built by Metro-Cammell.

 

[43096]

The Nightstar stock that ended up in Canada was built by Metro-Cammell.

Actually it was GEC-Alsthom by the time it was built.

 

[D6130]

As well as the aforementioned Mk 2/3 stock, Iarnroid Eireann also purchased the prototype BREL 'International Train' set which - after regauging and repainting - was used for several years on the two round trips daily 'Cu na Mara' diagram from Dublin to Galway and back.

 

[70014IronDuke]

2C but they were retrofitted with aircon units when in Israel.

Ah, thks for details. Mk2Cs were designed from the off for retro-fitting of air con, if I remember correctly, though BR never bothered.

They had Mk2Ds* and Mk3s as new with the first 56 Mk3s built at Derby, the rest at Inchicore either for finishing or from knocked down kits. IÉ also obtained some second hand 2Z/A/B/C in the early 1990s from Vic Berry scrapyard in exchange for withdrawn locomotives - enough for two sets of 7 coaches which ran with the so-called 'Dutch' generator vans.

One ex-HST Mk3 was also obtained in the 2000s for use as a push-pull set buffet car, when the formerly outer suburban push-pull sets began to transfer to certain second rank InterCity duties as new suburban DMUs from CAF entered traffic.

(*see below)

124 Mk3s (effectively 3B design) and 73 Mk2Ds*

(They are usually referred to as 2D, presumably because they were roughly contemporary to those when ordered, but design wise were actually more a hybrid of 2E (with diagonally opposite toilets in Standard Class) and 2F with fully seperate air-conditioning instead of the 2D/E design of pressure ventilation and electric heating with air-con added on top.

Sorry, I couldn't remember the exact number of Mk2s to Ireland. Thinking about it, 73 carriages was a very substantial order. About four months solid production work, including a few days holiday allowance (As I remember, Litchurch Lane was expected to produce 1 new carriager per day when things were going to plan.)

 

[hexagon789]

Sorry, I couldn't remember the exact number of Mk2s to Ireland. Thinking about it, 73 carriages was a very substantial order. About four months solid production work, including a few days holiday allowance (As I remember, Litchurch Lane was expected to produce 1 new carriager per day when things were going to plan.)

As delivered, the full fleet of "AC stock", as it was referred to until the Mk3s arrived, consisted of:

11 Electric Generator Van
11 Restaurant Standard Buffet
36 Standard
9 Composite
6 First