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Pokermonster

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Good Afternoon Gentlemen (and Ladies). Apologies for this rather basic and perhaps foolish question.

I'm traveling from Bristol to Derby and have found you can get considerably cheaper Bath to Derby Advance tickets (changing at Bristol).

Would I have any problems using the cheaper Bath to Derby ticket even if I have no intention to travel the first leg of the journey?

and why is it cheaper to go Bath to Derby via Bristol than it is Bristol to Derby?

Thank you.
 
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Potentially, yes, because the T&Cs do not allow this, and Temple Meads has ticket barriers.

See http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1179550&postcount=5

Are you saying the ticket barriers would be my only obstacle?

If that was the case I'd buy a cheap Temple Meads to Lawrence Hill ticket in the process to evade the barriers and still save myself a lot money.

It's only a 10 minute journey Bath to Bristol so it would be plausible my ticket might not be inspected on the first leg of my journey if I was to travel 'legitimately'.

What if there was a long delay between connections, say an hour? There isn't, but let's say there was. Do the T&Cs of advanced tickets force me to stay in the confines of connecting stations? If I did a quick 10 minute sight seeing/meet a friend would the barriers not let me back in?

Apologies if this is me being pedantic but I'm trying to save myself some money!
 

CaptainHaddock

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Good Afternoon Gentlemen (and Ladies). Apologies for this rather basic and perhaps foolish question.

I'm traveling from Bristol to Derby and have found you can get considerably cheaper Bath to Derby Advance tickets (changing at Bristol).

Would I have any problems using the cheaper Bath to Derby ticket even if I have no intention to travel the first leg of the journey?

and why is it cheaper to go Bath to Derby via Bristol than it is Bristol to Derby?

Thank you.

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The answer is that you are not permitted to start short on an Advance fare, especially if it is used to avoid paying the correct fare for your journey.

The forum cannot condone any such action and/or buying a short fare to bypass the gateline with the sole purpose being to circumvent this condition.

If caught starting short on an Advance fare, you could be liable for an excess fare, so you do so at your own risk.

One option that is open to you is to buy a ticket to Bath, and travel to Bath on an earlier departure to connect with your booked service.
 
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