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BestWestern

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Looks fun. Bagsie the Metrobus!
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* The comments to that remind one why it is called the Beautiful Game, do they not?
Indeed... :roll: What a thoroughly ludicrous waste of time, money and resources. If they can't behave themselves then play the bloody game in an empty statdium and tell the lot of em to watch it on TV. High time we stopped pandering to footie yobs.
 
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Indeed... :roll: What a thoroughly ludicrous waste of time, money and resources. If they can't behave themselves then play the bloody game in an empty statdium to tell the lot of em to watch it on TV. High time we stopped pandering to footie yobs.

What is this 'footie' you speak of? Do you mean Football?
 

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Yeah Footie means Football

Soccer also means Football.

depends on what part of the world you live in :)
No, its football and thats it. You dont call it rugger do you? Or rock music Rocky do you? Or the trains choo-choo's when you talk about them so why do it with football. It really is a minor bug bear of mine.
 

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In most of Scotland fitba is perfectly acceptable - language police can't tell people not to use regional dialect, as much as it offends their sensibilities, so I would give up if I were you!
 

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Many people do use "footy" to mean "footbal"l. Many people do use "rugger" instead of "rugby". No-oine uses "rocky" to mean "rock music" and "choo choo" only tends to be used to refer to trains by/to small children. Even being slightly annoyed by "footy" is more annoyed than you should be- just let it wash over you.
 

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No, its football and thats it. You dont call it rugger do you? Or rock music Rocky do you? Or the trains choo-choo's when you talk about them so why do it with football. It really is a minor bug bear of mine.
Contracting Place names is a bigger annoyance to me. especially when people expect you to know what they mean!
 

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No, its football and thats it. You dont call it rugger do you? Or rock music Rocky do you? Or the trains choo-choo's when you talk about them so why do it with football. It really is a minor bug bear of mine.
It was the English who first used the word Soccer which is an abbreviation of Association Football.

Not surprised at the comments, Portsmouth & Southampton fans loath each other.

I remember a couple of years ago when Burnley were in the Premier League, & when they played Blackburn, the away fans going to Blackburn had to go to Burnleys ground first & board the Coaches otherwise they'd not be able to attend the game, which led to an amusing situation were a Burnley fan who lives opposite Blackburns groung had to travel to Burnleys ground, then board the Coach to Blackburn, & had to travel back to Burnley after the game then make his way back to Blackburn.:lol:
 
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40 odd buses double deck buses and a couple of coaches...

... and how many trains to transport the same amount of fans ?
Presumably about forty-odd carriages in that case. Do SWT have that many spare?

Although you'd then have to get the fans to/from the station at Portsmouth to the ground (since a bus can obviously get closer than a train) which may cause problems with the police escort etc (I forget how far Fratton Park is from the nearest station)
 

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No, its football and thats it. You dont call it rugger do you? Or rock music Rocky do you? Or the trains choo-choo's when you talk about them so why do it with football. It really is a minor bug bear of mine.
It's a very major bugbear of mine when my train (or any train for that matter) ends up having to convey a bunch of loathesome drunk idiots who seem to feel that having attended the afore mentioned footie gives them the right to show absolutely no respect whatsoever to any other member of the human race. Tell you what, you keep them out of my way and I'll stop calling it footie, how's that?! ;)
 

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Presumably about forty-odd carriages in that case. Do SWT have that many spare?

Although you'd then have to get the fans to/from the station at Portsmouth to the ground (since a bus can obviously get closer than a train) which may cause problems with the police escort etc (I forget how far Fratton Park is from the nearest station)
It's fairly near to Fratton station, although you would have to go over the bridge and march everyone along the road and round the other side of Fratton depot, with much potential for mayhem, or march everyone onto buses to shuttle them to the ground. And I doubt SWT would have 10 450s spare.
 
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Incidentally - who covered the costs for this operation ? Was it covered by any fare charged ? Did either of the football clubs concerned foot the bill ?
 

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Um no the instructions IIRC were buses would leave from Southampton, Winchester, Eastleigh, Salisbury and possibly the island, and unless you were on one of these buses you didn't get your ticket.

So the railway didn't come into it.

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I'm waiting for the day when patrons of ballet, orchestra recitals or cricket matches are told that they have to wait at a designated and possibly inconvenient place and go in a convoy of buses to their destinations and that if they're caught having a teensy glass or wine or wanting to visit any other cultural centres in the town they're visiting rather than be shoehorned back into the bus they will be arrested on some charge or other.

I know thoroughly decent soccer fans who just want to watch their team play away, as they have a perfect right to do, and I'm ashamed of them being treated like **** and have their human rights trampled on by supposed forces of "law and order". Of course, if individuals then misbehave that's another matter.
 

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I'm waiting for the day when patrons of ballet, orchestra recitals or cricket matches are told that they have to wait at a designated and possibly inconvenient place and go in a convoy of buses to their destinations and that if they're caught having a teensy glass or wine or wanting to visit any other cultural centres in the town they're visiting rather than be shoehorned back into the bus they will be arrested on some charge or other.

I know thoroughly decent soccer fans who just want to watch their team play away, as they have a perfect right to do, and I'm ashamed of them being treated like **** and have their human rights trampled on by supposed forces of "law and order". Of course, if individuals then misbehave that's another matter.
Oh, I agree; however, you'll rarely hear fans of the Royal Opera House promising fans of Sadlers Wells that they'll kick the ***ing **** out of the *** ****** next time they meet.

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It's also noteworthy that this is never considered necessary with Rugby fans; I was in Cardiff one day when there was an England/Wales match at the Millennium Stadium, and both lots of fans were meandering about in the streets and on the station quite happily, and a Police presence was hardly considered necessary at all. Make of this what you will, I suppose.
 

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It can't be a coincidence that discipline on the field, harsh punishments for those that cheat, and respect for the referee all rub off on the rugby fans too. The fans do seem to respect the opposition, unlike in football.
 

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Incidentally - who covered the costs for this operation ? Was it covered by any fare charged ? Did either of the football clubs concerned foot the bill ?
Bearing in mind that dear old Pompey can't afford to pay the electric bill at the moment, I 'd be enormously surprised if they'd been able to stump up a few thousand towards this. I would guess that you, me and every other over-burdened taxpayer probably funded it, or the Police overtime bill at least. That seems entirely fair to me, not as if there's anything more important to spend it on.... <(
 

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Bearing in mind that dear old Pompey can't afford to pay the electric bill at the moment, I 'd be enormously surprised if they'd been able to stump up a few thousand towards this. I would guess that you, me and every other over-burdened taxpayer probably funded it, or the Police overtime bill at least. That seems entirely fair to me, not as if there's anything more important to spend it on.... <(
I think clubs pay towards policing. Only going by the fact that a Rangers match recently may not have gone ahead if policing cost were not paid.
 

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Don't they pay only for police in and just outside the ground? I thought the tax payer picked up the tab for the police on the streets - which is where most trouble is likely to kick off (sic).
 

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It's highly unlikely that any club actually ends up covering anywhere near what it really costs to deal with the issues they are responsible for causing. Obviously, violence and disorder tends to be the first thing that comes to mind, but even where this doesn't apply there can still be other costs. Sticking with Pompey, who pays for example for the loss of trade to local business when the whole place grinds to a halt on a saturday due to Fratton Park being in the middle of a small congested city? Absolute mayhem, week in week out. And the fans buying a few greasy burgers here and there comes nowhere close to compensating for it I'm quite sure. And when serious disorder does occur, I wonder how many 'opportunistic' offences occuer in other parts of the affected town, due to there being no police left to deal with anything else?! In fairness though, the 'bussing-in' arrangement does at least provide trade for the local coach firms I suppose!
 

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It's highly unlikely that any club actually ends up covering anywhere near what it really costs to deal with the issues they are responsible for causing. Obviously, violence and disorder tends to be the first thing that comes to mind, but even where this doesn't apply there can still be other costs. Sticking with Pompey, who pays for example for the loss of trade to local business when the whole place grinds to a halt on a saturday due to Fratton Park being in the middle of a small congested city? Absolute mayhem, week in week out. And the fans buying a few greasy burgers here and there comes nowhere close to compensating for it I'm quite sure. And when serious disorder does occur, I wonder how many 'opportunistic' offences occuer in other parts of the affected town, due to there being no police left to deal with anything else?! In fairness though, the 'bussing-in' arrangement does at least provide trade for the local coach firms I suppose!
One could say many of the same things with reference to the Olympics... although at least they don't happen quite so frequently. It would seem to make sense, would it not, for major Sporting venues to be on out of town sites, with their own rail stations for their exclusive use. Perhaps when the New World Order takes over, this could be one of the many things they could look at.
 

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One could say many of the same things with reference to the Olympics... although at least they don't happen quite so frequently. It would seem to make sense, would it not, for major Sporting venues to be on out of town sites, with their own rail stations for their exclusive use. Perhaps when the New World Order takes over, this could be one of the many things they could look at.
Agreed :D

I'm just hoping that our obscene investment in the Olympics provides a brighter legacy for future generations than they were left with in Greece, but that's a debate for another time! :roll:
 

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Saw a report on South Today and noticed that windows on one bus were broken ,typical of these drunken bums.Agree about rugby both codes fans are well behaved and mostly mix together in the stadium witness the number of families who attend .
 
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