Can you travel from Lands End to John O Groats entirely on bus vehicles (not coach vehicles)?

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  1. iantherev

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    It has been known. There’s less chance of it now that Brecon has the three new Solos but with only 37025 spare and all 12 Volvos needed for weekday service, nothing can be ruled out if an unexpected problem crops up.
     
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    X10 is, I believe, a coach route allocated with Plaxton Elites (like Scotland's 10 from Aberdeen to Inverness). My rule is to only use coaches where the is no alternative route that runs with buses. (in this case after Inverness)
     
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  5. Statto

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    In that case
    59/59A/96/96A//97 Barnsley-Wakefield
    110 Wakefield-Leeds

    96/96A goes though Crigglestone where you can also change for the 110[Hall Green section], & 96/96A has the same route as the 110 the other side of Kettlethorpe without needing to change in Wakefield city centre
     
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    I've come to the conclusion that anyone attempting to make the full journey in less than a month would require both medical and, more importantly, mental health back-up on reaching John o'Groats. :lol:
     
  7. Jordan Adam

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    After a journey on the X98/X99 you'd need that regardless. o_O
     
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    :E

    This is a journey i love to do, but when the weather is a bit warmer & you have the daylight, preferably April to June.:D
     
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    X6 is always bus again now, they use Volvo B8(?) with MCV(?) bodywork.
     
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    It is a fine ride in the sunshine right enough.
    Did it once to catch the Pentalina at Gills Bay.
     
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    I walked it in the summer, roundabout route taking 1258 miles not much slower than the bus. I did get the bus to Lands End from Penzance Station!
     
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    How long did it take, Paul?
     
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    I wouldn't walk from Penzance to Land's End, either! I hate even driving it, too many bends, cars going too fast. Congrats for walking the 1258 miles, though, v. impressive.
     
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    Left appropriately on April 1 arrived JOG on 12 July.
     
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    Down the coast from Penzance to lands end is fine, relatively easy walking, the north coast to St. ives is much toughtr.
     
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    A lot of extra walking, though: I don't think an end to end walker would be looking to add to the miles!
     
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    I think a problem is booking hotels , would you pre book or risk arriving somewhere ?
     
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    I camped around a third of the nights and the rest was in everything from Bothies to 4 star hotels. I booked between about 3 days before until the morning of the stay but it did increase the cost. Theres no way I would book the whole lot in advance, I somehow managed to get food poisoning in the Wye Valley and had to stay in Monmouth for 3 nights to recover. If Id booked ahead it would have been a nightmare re-arraging everything and theres no way that I would have been able to get back on schedule.
     
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    I don't fancy the idea of camping whilst doing this journey, sooner have a proper bed whether b&b or hotel, it's a unfortunate to get food poisoning most are quite safe in the UK, & most people would be fine booking b&b or hotels in advance, the other thing to consider doing such a journey is not carrying too much stuff, especially changing buses.

    You also have to consider what time you're finishing for the day, some b&bs & hotels might not allow check in after a certain time say 9/10pm, same with checking out if you want the bus before 7am, travelodge/premier inn should be fine, others including b&bs not so.

    Another thing, might have asked this before on another thread but forgotten, does Scottish Citylink allow the use of Scottish National passes, the Scottish equivalent of ENCTS passes?
     
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    Yes they do. On top of that Card holders get free refreshments on CitylinkGold too!
     
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    A wee dram? :lol:
     
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    Cheers, possibilities then covering Perth-Inverness section on Scottish Citylink, my idea would be to use services which ENCTS passes, & Scottish National passes are valid on rather than all normal buses :E
     
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    Given that Lands End is in First territory and John O'Groats in Stagecoach, I wonder how few buses from other operators we would need if we travel all the way by bus? I think a little Arriva in the Midlands would be inevitable.
     
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    You can do Lands End to Newtown entirely on a mixture of just First and Stagecoach only. This is also a fairly straightforward route.

    You can do Newtown to Wrexham entirely on either Lloyds Coaches or Tanat Valley Coaches only. It is a joint route so you would only use one of them and which one you used would be depending on which journey you took.

    You can do Wrexham to John O Groats entirely on Stagecoach services only. I imagine that this is also the longest distance you can travel entirely on one bus operator.

    I believe that this is the one and only way that you could use just three bus operators. It is obviously not the quickest way but any other quicker routes will require you to use a minimum of four bus operators.

    Unless any other members know of any quicker route that only uses three operators. I was trying to think of a route that only uses the big three of Arriva and First and Stagecoach but i can't seem to find one so i don't think it seems to be possible.
     
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    I would be very interested in a possible itinerary for the Wrexham to John O'Groats Stagecoach-only routing.

    My favourite big operator and possibly could be done on a handful of Rover-type tickets and a couple of Travelodge overnight stays.(Then back by train from Wick or Thurso!)
     
  26. bustrainrider

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    This is a possible routeing entirely on Stagecoach only:

    Wrexham to Chester (5)
    Chester to Liverpool (1/2/X8)
    Liverpool to Preston (X2)
    Preston to Lancaster (40/40A)
    Lancaster to Keswick (555)
    Keswick to Carlisle (554)
    Carlisle to Dumfries (79)
    Dumfries to Edinburgh (101/101S/102/102S)
    Edinburgh to Perth (X56)
    Perth to Aberdeen (X7)
    Aberdeen to Inverness (10/10A/10B)
    Inverness to Wick or Thurso (X98/X99)
    Wick or Thurso to John O Groats (77/80/80D/177/277/280)

    You could even go slightly further by taking the 274 from Thurso to Bettyhill further along the North Coast area.

    I know the Stagecoach North West Explorer ticket will take you all the way from Wrexham to Dumfries which is amazing value but it is not valid on any of the other Stagecoach buses North of there.

    This would definitely be an interesting journey to do and you would certainly see a lot.
     
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    There's been a few bus service changes, 2 Chester-Liverpool was cut to Chester-Ellesmere Port, X1 replaced X8, you can do Wrexham-John O' Groats on Stagecoach
    5 Wrexham-Chester
    1/X1 Chester-Liverpool
    X2 Liverpool-Preston
    40/41 Preston-Lancaster
    555 Lancaster-Keswick
    554 Keswick-Carlisle if connection can't be made than
    X4/X5 Keswick-Penrith
    104 Penrith-Carlisle
    79 Carlisle-Dumfries
    You have a couple of options from Dumfries to Dundee, via Glasgow or Edinburgh
    101/102 Dumfries-Edinburgh
    X58 Edinburgh-Dundee
    Or
    X74 Dumfries-Glasgow
    X26 Glasgow-Dundee, you can also catch X24 Glasgow to Glenrothes or St Andrews & connecting X54/X58 Glenrothes-Dundee, or 99/99A/99B/99C/99D St Andrews-Dundee
    X7 Dundee-Aberdeen,
    10 Aberdeen-Inverness
    X98/X99 Inverness-Wick or Thurso
    I think there's better service from Thurso-John O' Groats on 80 than from Wick

    You might want to go via Glasgow instead of Edinburgh as 101/102 only have 4 through journey's, most of the service is Edinburgh-Biggar
     

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