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pokemonsuper9

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I'm planning on going for a walk along the Hope Valley tomorrow. How big is the possibility of trains being cancelled between Sheffield and Manchester?
Last Saturday there were no cancellations during the day (with only 2 cancellations late in the evening/night).
Northern journey check lists the many cancellations already in for tomorrow, and none of them are on the Hope Valley.
 
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I'm planning on going for a walk along the Hope Valley tomorrow. How big is the possibility of trains being cancelled between Sheffield and Manchester?
Plan to end somewhere at a pub on the 272 bus route, rather than Edale! :D
 

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From Northern on Twitter/X in what now seems to be a weekly occurrence:

CHECK BEFORE YOU TRAVEL - SUNDAY 23RD JUNE - North West & Cumbria Due to a member of train crew being unavailable all Northern services across the North West & Cumbria are subject to short notice alterations, cancellations and delays. Customers are advised to CHECK BEFORE THEY TRAVEL ON SUNDAY 23RD JUNE.

There will be NO NORTHERN TRAIN SERVICES on the following routes... Wigan North Western to Stalybridge Manchester Victoria to Clitheroe Lancaster to Morecambe/Heysham Port We strongly advise you to avoid travelling on these routes. A VERY LIMITED replacement bus service will be running. If you choose not to travel, a refund for unused tickets can be made via the Northern website at http://northernrailway.co.uk
 

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Just looking at roster sheets for early next week......It makes for depressing reading. Will be loads of cancellations
 

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I think it’s time someone flagged this up to Andy Burnham. I know he’s commented in the past but it’s never been this bad before.
I'm sure Andy Burnham knows. His officers at TfGM will have flagged it up to him.

One other thing that can be said about Andy Burnham is that he knows not just what to say in order to have an impact, but also when to say it to have maximum impact. He is not going to see any point in speaking out before 5th July.
 

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Take it to the DfT and tell them it's not acceptable.
I’m sure will have them shaking with fear. Burnham, remember, is the man who spent months grandstanding about getting rid of Arriva in order to improve things. Would be refreshing if he stood up and said how wrong he was.
 

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I’m sure will have them shaking with fear. Burnham, remember, is the man who spent months grandstanding about getting rid of Arriva in order to improve things. Would be refreshing if he stood up and said how wrong he was.
Politicians don't always get everything right however by creating the Bee Network and pushing for more rail integration I'm gonna err on the side that he is doing more right for transport in greater Manchester than not - and everything has its issues, these are not solely confined to Andy Burnham
 

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Well he's bound to have a bit more influence than several thousand (million?) massively inconvenienced "customers" who don't have a collective voice on this issue.
 

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Well he's bound to have a bit more influence than several thousand (million?) massively inconvenienced "customers" who don't have a collective voice on this issue.
Several million passengers voting with their feet and wallets will have massively more influence. Burnham has no influence whatsoever....
 

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Several million passengers voting with their feet and wallets will have massively more influence. Burnham has no influence whatsoever....
The reality is that nobody really has a voice when it comes to a state owned monopoly. At least a franchise holder can be held to account and may suffer financial losses for poor performance. The passenger was powerless under BR and faved a ‘take it or leave it’ attitude - those who wanted state ownership have brought this back.
 

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I'll grudgingly say one thing for Northern, at least we get plenty of notice of their cancellations, and don't have to wait until 10:00pm the night before like TPE.
 

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I'll grudgingly say one thing for Northern, at least we get plenty of notice of their cancellations, and don't have to wait until 10:00pm the night before like TPE.
Will give you plenty of notice of this Sunday coming.....The England match will take it's toll on planned services and this could well be the worst day ever for late cancellations
 

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Poor service on the Hope Valley line again today. In fact it's not been a service at all as far as most potential users were concerned. Only 5 of the supposedly hourly calls at Dore all day, see RTT; https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:DOR/to/gb-nr:MAN/2024-07-07/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=pax-calls&order=actual&toc=NT

If you got where you were going would you get back by train? Maybe, but when?

So the group of pilgrims heading for Padley Chapel (see below) at Grindleford walked back home and got out their cars; https://hallam-diocese.com/pilgrimage/padley-annual-interdiocesan-pilgrimage/

Not before they'd seen the CIS screens

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All appeared to have already bought tickets online before leaving home. A lady speaking with an air of authority told her friends the train they planned to catch had been cancelled due to a train crash! What?

CIS leaves users to fill the gaps and she had - speaking possibly truer than she realised!! Service cancelled due to a train cr......... The service certainly had crashed. You have to laugh or you'd cry.

*The Padley Story

The year of 1588 was a dark one for Catholicism in England. It was High Treason for any priest ordained abroad to be in the Kingdom, and anyone harbouring such priests was liable to be put to death.

As fears of a Spanish Catholic invasion grew, persecution of recusants (people who refused to recognise the Queen's supreme religious authority in England) was increasing. In the early morning of 12 July 1588, Padley Manor, the residence of the recusant John Fitzherbert was raided. Two travelling priests – Nicholas Garlick and Robert Ludlam – were staying overnight. The priests and everyone else in the Hall were arrested. Garlick and Ludlam along with another priest Richard Simpson, were brutally executed in Derby a fortnight later.

An annual Pilgrimage to Padley in honour of the martyrs began in 1898. In 1931 Mgr. Charles Payne of the Diocese of Nottingham bought the property and restored the building which, due to boundary changes, is now owned by the Diocese of Hallam. In 1934 the altar stone, which had been hidden by the Fitzherbert family shortly before their arrest was discovered buried in the garden. It was restored to its rightful place in what would have been the domestic chapel of the house and to its rightful place in a story of constancy and of those who bravely kept the light of their faith burning through the dark centuries.
 
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