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Child seen lying over edge of Trowbridge railway platform

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-44916009

A child was witnessed lying with his head over the edge of a railway station platform prompting an investigation by British Transport Police.

A photo posted online of the incident, which took place in Trowbridge, Wiltshire on Saturday afternoon, has since gone viral on social media.

Tim Brown, who took the photo, said when he challenged the boy's guardian he was told he was a "do-gooder".

Mr Brown, from Birmingham, described it as "absolutely unbelievable".

He said when he explained to the man, who was also with two young girls, that "people are seriously injured and die doing this", the man replied "the train's not due" and "he only wants to look at the track".

Mr Brown, who works for Network Rail, said he pointed out that freight or unscheduled trains could pass through at any time and he reported the matter to a guard.

'Obvious dangers'
On Facebook, David Routley wrote: "As a freight train driver who drove a 1,000 tonne train through this station yesterday morning, to see this scares and shocks me to the core."

Hanif Ali added: "What world is he living in? If he can't see the obvious dangers then he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children."

British Transport Police confirmed it had been notified and was awaiting further information prior to launching an investigation.

A spokesman for Great Western Railway (GWR), which manages Trowbridge railway station, said: "Trains often pass through railway stations without stopping and without appearing on any timetable at very high speeds.

"Stay safe by keeping back from the platform edge and behind the yellow line at all times, and listen out for announcements."

The stupidity of some people is unbelievable.

No doubt if the child had been injured, or an unscheduled train had passed through the station unexpectedly, it would have been the "..nasty old railway..." to blame. What sort of message about rail safety does this sort of thing send?
 
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The stupidity of some people is unbelievable.

No doubt if the child had been injured, or an unscheduled train had passed through the station unexpectedly, it would have been the "..nasty old railway..." to blame. What sort of message about rail safety does this sort of thing send?

There was a dad once telling his daughter to stand behind the yellow line at Hadley Wood station, then standing over it himself. She rightly told him off only to be told that it was okay for adults..
 

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Unfortunately there isn't an intelligence test for breeding.
 

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Aside from the obvious dangers and the wrong behavior being shown here, there are much safer ways for the child to be allowed to be "looking at the tracks". I know children can be more curious/fascinated by specific things than adults, but the guardian could suggest using a footbridge (without leaning over the edge of that) or, if that's not possible, looking from the platform across to the other side, where viewing is still clear, would satisfy the child's curiosity and be safer than this example :idea:
 

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The recently published RSSB Annual Safety Report for 2017-18 describes one of the few fatalities at stations as being caused when a freight train passed through Melton Mowbray while a person was dangling their legs over the platform edge.

This sort of thing is just *so* dangerous. I will always intervene (but often get a dismissive response).
 

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The fatality at Chester Le Street last night involved a young person sat dangling their legs over the side of the platform.
 

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Yes, we all know it's moronic, but this sort of person cannot be educated. The child must have his way and any other view is meddling/boring.
 

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This seems like the type of parent who would blame the train for hitting their child. Doesn't give a crap and thinks their child can do no wrong.
 

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This seems like the type of parent who would blame the train for hitting their child. Doesn't give a crap and thinks their child can do no wrong.

News reports mention 'guardian'. Would be wrong to blame parents in this case if the child wasn't with them.
 

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Some people simply think that all trains slow down for stations regardless of whether they are stopping.
 

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You can easily see the tracks at they other platform, or by standing carefully close to the edge to take a peek but lying with your head over the side of the platform?!
What has humanity come to?
 

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There was a case of a woman who tried to drive across a crossing on the Cambrian Coast without first obtaining permission. Being a local she claimed to know the not very frequent service so the line would be clear. But, along came an Engineers train - Bang.
 

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There was a case of a woman who tried to drive across a crossing on the Cambrian Coast without first obtaining permission. Being a local she claimed to know the not very frequent service so the line would be clear. But, along came an Engineers train - Bang.
Darwin award candidate right there
 
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You cannot stop stupid people doing stupid things or allowing children to do so. I used to get on the PA if I saw people cycling on the platforms on the CCTV but sometimes you ended up getting verbal abuse back of the nature "I know what I am doing". Maybe the announcements of "Please stand well away from the edge of platform X the approaching train" etc don't always help because to stupid people no announcement means no train but of course we all know otherwise.
 

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You cannot stop stupid people doing stupid things or allowing children to do so. I used to get on the PA if I saw people cycling on the platforms on the CCTV but sometimes you ended up getting verbal abuse back of the nature "I know what I am doing". Maybe the announcements of "Please stand well away from the edge of platform X the approaching train" etc don't always help because to stupid people no announcement means no train but of course we all know otherwise.

I've had many cyclists tell me to 'get a life' or 'grow up' when telling them not ride along a platform. They always say they know what they're doing and are perfectly safe, ignoring the fact that others get out of their way - which means someone being surprised is in danger. Hence, no cycling or using a scooter, roller blades and so on.
 

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I've had many cyclists tell me to 'get a life' or 'grow up' when telling them not ride along a platform. They always say they know what they're doing and are perfectly safe, ignoring the fact that others get out of their way - which means someone being surprised is in danger. Hence, no cycling or using a scooter, roller blades and so on.

One day one of these ignorant fools will knock someone else onto a running line.

even worse it tends to be adults as much as kids doing this.

I would love to see BTP/Revenue fining this idiotic behaviour.
 

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One day one of these ignorant fools will knock someone else onto a running line.

even worse it tends to be adults as much as kids doing this.

I would love to see BTP/Revenue fining this idiotic behaviour.

It's nearly always adults. Kids are often quick to get off and look rather sheepish. The adults are the ones with the back chat because they probably get told off regularly and are used to it. That makes it worse because they really can't claim ignorance.
 

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Pip Dunn put the image on Twitter, or a retweet of it. My response is what I'll put here.

Just because a train isn't coming, doesn't mean a train isn't coming. Freight trains, Engineers, Light engine movements, railtours, ECS movements, driver training runs, trains not stopping. These aren't always shown on the timetable posters, and not on platform information screens. It's always safe to assume a train MAY be coming, even if the screen say otherwise.
 

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I would love to see BTP/Revenue fining this idiotic behaviour.

It’s largely or wholly teenagers doing it in my area, and it’s an overwhelming problem. The BTP and security staff are very aware and taking ever firmer action (they have a lot of evidence to support the action they take) but the kids still won’t get the message. They literally have nothing better to do than loiter around stations and wait until they’re totally unstaffed, and then use the railway as a bike park. It’s not as if real bike parks don’t exist 5 minutes down their roads anyway, so it’s just troublemaking. Unless you staff every platform near every notable settlement 24/7, the idiots will find a way...
 

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Makes me think of the woman driver who just missed my toes
It's nearly always adults. Kids are often quick to get off and look rather sheepish. The adults are the ones with the back chat because they probably get told off regularly and are used to it. That makes it worse because they really can't claim ignorance.
You see the attitude on web discussions all the time. Cyclists claim that they are entitled to endanger pedestrians because bikes aren't as dangerous as cars.
 

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Makes me think of the woman driver who just missed my toes

You see the attitude on web discussions all the time. Cyclists claim that they are entitled to endanger pedestrians because bikes aren't as dangerous as cars.

Oh what a surprise, the dumb stereotypes are out again, because everyone knows that a slapping a label on a group of people with one common factor is just so logical. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

If you actually bothered to look on a cycling forum, you will find that there is widespread condemnation of any cyclist who endangers pedestrians. You may be getting confused with the putting into perspective argument, where the argument is that clamping down on irresponsible cyclists is not a good use of finite money and resources when motorists kill and injure tens of thousands per year, and contribute virtually all the danger on the roads.

I am a regular cyclist and know that cycling along a station platform is incredibly dumb, and not necessarily due to the risk of accidentally riding onto the tracks. The fact that people are milling around, many are oblivious to their surroundings, and no-one would expect people to be cycling on a platform is reason enough.
 

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This is an extremely idiotic and stupid thing to do. There are also a number of idiotic and stupid comments appended to this thread!
 

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I think thread is gonna go Stockport viaduct style.

We all agree letting a child dangle their legs over the platform is bad.

If there is enough evidence to prove the 'guardian's negligence then I hope prosecution happens. If not, the public embarrassment should hopefully be enough
 

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The stupidity of some people is unbelievable.

No doubt if the child had been injured, or an unscheduled train had passed through the station unexpectedly, it would have been the "..nasty old railway..." to blame. What sort of message about rail safety does this sort of thing send?

I see the stupid father is claiming he was looking at the information board and than non-stop trains are always announced. Well done for proving you didn’t know what you were doing!
 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-44924264

The father of a boy photographed with his head over the edge of a railway station platform says his son was never in danger.

Mr Stanton said he was "standing right by" his son and "could see the direction the trains were coming from and the information board".

He said: "I knew the man who took the photo wasn't happy but it is just a snapshot - Devon was there for all of 30 seconds - and all the people who have commented weren't there.

Mr Stanton added that high speed trains which pass through the station are always announced via the station intercom....
The father is mistaken in his belief that this is safe, and it also sets a very poor example to children.
 

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"Devon was there for all of 30 seconds"

What an idiot the father is. It takes a lot less than 30 seconds in some places for a train to come around the corner.
 
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