Class 172 Production Progress

[RPM]

I doubt it will be a 172, at least to begin with. Only Aylesbury drivers sign the route into PAD and so far only Marylebone drivers sign the 172s.

 

[whhistle]

Why do the Chiltern and London Midland 172's gave different designs?

 

[MCR247]

Why do the Chiltern and London Midland 172's gave different designs?

Different purposes?

 

[swt_passenger]

Why do the Chiltern and London Midland 172's gave different designs?

No need for a gangway on Chiltern, firstly because they were specifically ordered for short services that use single units, but most likely also because none of Chiltern's existing DMU stock is gangwayed.

Apart from that aren't they basically the same inside apart from the upholstery?

 

[Voyager 2093]

If you want to be pedantic;

They have different shaped lights and all that malarkey

Different shaped front ends due to the London Midland examples having gangways as mentioned above..there's quite a few differences. Apparently the CH 172s are 100mph capable now.

 

[Old Hill Bank]

If you want to be pedantic;

They have different shaped lights and all that malarkey

Different shaped front ends due to the London Midland examples having gangways as mentioned above..there's quite a few differences. Apparently the CH 172s are 100mph capable now.

These Turbostars have Aluminum bodies with bolt on ends made of steel, it makes sense that at some future point gangway ends could be retro fitted.

The LO stuff has no Loo's how stupid is that, no train should be built that way!!!

When we see some two car 172's at TS we have a result.

 

[RobShipway]

These Turbostars have Aluminum bodies with bolt on ends made of steel, it makes sense that at some future point gangway ends could be retro fitted.

The LO stuff has no Loo's how stupid is that, no train should be built that way!!!

When we see some two car 172's at TS we have a result.

That is no different to Southern having to use Class 313 on journeys that take more than an hour along the Sussex coat routes.

 

[Old Hill Bank]

That is no different to Southern having to use Class 313 on journeys that take more than an hour along the Sussex coat routes.

I agree, thing is the the 172'0's are new!!!!

 

[anthony263]

Wasnt one of the reasons why they didnt install toilets onboard was that the maximum journey time was 35 minutes and they wanted more room for seats

 

[Old Hill Bank]

Wasnt one of the reasons why they didnt install toilets onboard was that the maximum journey time was 35 minutes and they wanted more room for seats

So you go out for the evening in Hampstead with a mate get on a 378 then wait for a 172/0 to get home, something gets delayed, where's the passenger comfort!!!!

 

[starrymarkb]

How long would the Toilets survive passing through tottenham? remember that the LO units are running metro services, does the new S-Stock have Toilets, that is used on longer runs

 

[Voyager 2093]

How long would the Toilets survive passing through tottenham? remember that the LO units are running metro services, does the new S-Stock have Toilets, that is used on longer runs

But it is not normal to TS Trains to have toilets due to their Metro style inner-city suburban style services.

 

[northwichcat]

The first LM 172 service apparently ran last week:
http://www.rail.co/2011/08/05/two-train-operators-launch-new-bombardier-trains/

 

[Old Hill Bank]

The first LM 172 service apparently ran last week:
http://www.rail.co/2011/08/05/two-train-operators-launch-new-bombardier-trains/

It was a press thing, no public.

Phased introduction into service starts next month.

 

[Boothby97]

The LO stuff has no Loo's how stupid is that, no train should be built that way!!!

How about stuff like 139s that operate a 10 min journey or something like that?

 

[trains2064]

How about stuff like 139s that operate a 10 min journey or something like that?

The 139's journey is about 3 minutes. (The line is about 800 metres). This is not quite long enough to use a toilet so I don't think this is long enough.

I do agree that the LO 172's need toilets though.

 

[Boothby97]

The 139's journey is about 3 minutes. (The line is about 800 metres). This is not quite long enough to use a toilet so I don't think this is long enough.

I do agree that the LO 172's need toilets though.

I agree. No the bit about 139s ment they don't need toilets.

 

[newtownmgr]

As of yesterday 172's with LM are 172211,331,332,333,337,338,339,340,341,345.
172331,332 are still to return to Bombardier for internal fitment.

338,341 are currently in use at Worcester as training units. 340,345 doing mileage accumulation between Tys - Soa. Not sure what units being used by Leam & Snow Hill for training.

 

[trains2064]

As of yesterday 172's with LM are 172211,331,332,333,337,338,339,340,341,345.
172331,332 are still to return to Bombardier for internal fitment.

338,341 are currently in use at Worcester as training units. 340,345 doing mileage accumulation between Tys - Soa. Not sure what units being used by Leam & Snow Hill for training.

Can confirm a 172/2 on Tyseley.

 

[dooton]

Standing at tyseley now i cannot s.ee hardly anything! Can see more150s than 172s which is rather disappionting. Maybe one will come through while im waiting for the next train home

 

[Class172]

I saw my first ever 172 today!!!!!

On the train to Worcs and as we passed Worcester depot I saw 172338 shunting in the sidings. Then on the way back I saw it stabled in the siding, coupled to 172339. I'm so happy!

I must say they look very nice indeed.

 

[trainspotter]

I saw my first ever 172 today!!!!!

On the train to Worcs and as we passed Worcester depot I saw 172338 shunting in the sidings. Then on the way back I saw it stabled in the siding, coupled to 172339. I'm so happy!

I must say they look very nice indeed.

What time was you up Worcester today???

 

[Class172]

What time was you up Worcester today???

I caught the 14:20 service to Hereford (from BHM) and that was delayed by 6 mins so we passed the depot at about 14:35. On the way back we caught the 17:16 service towards Dorridge (also delayed by 8 mins) so we passed depot at about 17:28.

 

[317 forever]

I did get to ride a London Overground class 172 today as planned. I was encouraged that it has forward (and backward) facing seats rather than just longitudonal seats as per class 378s.

I did not ride the Snow Hill lines in Birmingham at all over the weekend but could probably not have located a class 172 with London Midland yet anyway.

As I am going to west London at the end of October, I wonder whether the Chiltern class 172s will be on local Marylebone-South/ West Ruislip journeys be then?

 

[Old Hill Bank]

http://www.londonmidland.com/your-journey/a-new-era-for-the-snow-hill-lines/

Now on the LM website

 

[Class172]

Basically reiterating what we already knew months ago!

 

[jon0844]

Ah, so it's the carpet that will keep the engine noise to a minimum!

 

[jopsuk]

Like the "built in the Midlands" bit- though of course LM don't go to Derby.

 

[150001]

Won't the carpet get dirty as the route is a commuter route in the peaks?

 

[jon0844]

More dirt means better sound proofing!