158s are the obvious cascade from TfW for GWR, whether they are the optimal for routes like Portsmouth to Cardiff is a different question, but certainly they have the same issues as 175s in terms of boarding speed etc.
Chiltern already have 2 car 165s and 168s, so they and their customers are used to 2-car 23m units with no gangways! And overcrowding in the unit nearest the Marylebone gateline...
As it stands, though, everything in EMR's regional fleet is entirely compatible with everything else, or at least will be once all the various modifications are complete (I'm unsure where they're up to with those), and also compatible with, or at least capable of being coupled to by for the purpose of shoving out of the way, certain other units that run on the same route.
Given TPE are expected to be getting rid of one of their fleets soon, in part due to driver training, I definitely don't expect that
Neptune has told you in the past Northern have no interest in the 175s, and I feel like they would have little interest in training up a whole new fleet when the big DMU replacer is likely closer than 10 years.
Ilford? How long does it take to get from Ilford to Marylebone?
Which part of ‘175’s are not coming to Northern’ are you struggling to understand? The DfT will not impose them on us.
Well Scotrail is still possible I suppose... we shall see.
Unless they go to the scrap, the only places I see the class 175 units going is either possibly Scotrail, but i suspect that is a no or for the class 175 units to go abroad.
The forum software has a really useful Ignore option - you can hover over someone's username and click "Ignore", and you won't see their posts ever again. I'd strongly recommend it.
Actually the first are expected to be headed out in only 5 years.
No. Ilford is a long way away and is an EMU depot (voyagers were only an interior refurb there) with little DMU experience. Being a former Bombardier depot they have no experience of Coradia units.
Not enough for EMR to replace 158s, TPE have enough stock.
This does not happen.
The info you gave was really useful, its a shame that another poster chooses to ignore it.
It's fairly clear that 175s have been considered and decided no.
EMR will have an all Class 170 regional fleet soon. It wouldn't be sensible.
It's more than that though. Decent reliable info is being given and you're effectively sticking your fingers in your ears and going "yeah but I think..."
No. You cannot call people downright rude because someone has forgotten (or even overlooked) information that you, a forumer the same as them, have chosen to give. I haven't quoted the full post but the tone of it really made me wince.
Yes, they are mainly an EMU depot, but they are currently doing heavy work on a couple of 175s, including repairing the fire damaged coaches. However, I do agree with the fact that they shouldn't be maintained there long term.
They won't. It's another of their many original promises that won't come to fruition anymore. They'll now have a bunch of Sprinters in the mix.
How come? Who's not donated their 170s?
The age old discussion of Liverpool Norwich being split and unsplit and split again, etc. They now need 158s to retain that half of the route.
The 170 plans were made assuming that the Liverpool-Nottingham service would transfer to Northern or TPE. Now that it's remaining as a Liverpool-Norwich service with EMR, more DMUs are needed at EMR and there aren't enough 170s to go around.
Arguments could then be made for a 158/170 swap between EMR and Northern for fleet consistency, but that'd be moving rather far from 175s.
