The 175s new home will be longsight until they find a permanent depot, some Chester Alstom staff have already gone to longsight.What about Longsight, as that has the added benefit of being an Alstom depot?
The 175s new home will be longsight until they find a permanent depot, some Chester Alstom staff have already gone to longsight.What about Longsight, as that has the added benefit of being an Alstom depot?
ScotRail have 43 x 156s, so not enough to be replaced by the 20 or so 175s that exist.could scotrail be a viable option? how many 156s do they have?
The 175s new home will be longsight until they find a permanent depot, some Chester Alstom staff have already gone to longsight.
Could be used on the Mid-Cheshire if they go to Northern I wonder? They’re cleared as TFW already operate them over it to maintain route knowledge.
Since when is rolling stock allocation based on the type of passengers using the service? Particularly when DfT are involved? The only recent possible exception that l can think of is SWR to Portsmouth.The Mid-Cheshire line needs more appropriate stock for the type of passenger using the service. It's almost comical to see the number of business travellers trying to get work done on a class 150 train.
Since when is rolling stock allocation based on the type of passengers using the service? Particularly when DfT are involved? The only recent possible exception that l can think of is SWR to Portsmouth.
Sometimes the posts on here read as if the average passenger is a bowler-hatted city gent type from sixty years ago complete with briefcase and rolled up umbrella....
Arriva were required to provide a new wheel lathe at Heaton under the Northern franchise agreement. Did this not happen before they were replaced by the OLR?Add in potentially the lost of Heaton based diagrams for the Hydrogen flex trains on Saltburn - Bishop Auckland (if it happens as its all gone quiet) and having to train Leeds / Neville Hill depot staff on them too as they'd need to visit Neville Hill if they get wheel flats (no wheel lathe at Heaton). Not as simple as it looks
My money is on them running on routes they are already cleared for, meaning the Mid Cheshire Line, Barrow/Windermere and Northern, displacing other less suitable DMUs.Could be used on the Mid-Cheshire if they go to Northern I wonder? They’re cleared as TFW already operate them over it to maintain route knowledge.
Arriva were required to provide a new wheel lathe at Heaton under the Northern franchise agreement. Did this n
My money is on them running on routes they are already cleared for, meaning the Mid Cheshire Line, Barrow/Windermere and Northern, displacing other less suitable DMUs.
Is there any intention now to proceed with a lathe for Heaton or is the idea dead now?Arriva negotiated with the DfT not to proceed with a lathe for Heaton but to get a double size one put in at one of the North West Maintenance depots (second hand from Old Oak Common IIRC). So Heaton doesn't have tyre turning facilities which means a trip to Neville Hill for any of the North East fleet (inc the 156s) which pick up some flats
Is there any intention now to proceed with a lathe for Heaton or is the idea dead now?
In what way is it double sized and where is it? None of the Northern DMUs have double sized wheels do they?No, as I say as soon as they got the double sized lathe the plans for Heaton were scrapped. Hasn’t been on the table for years
In what way is it double sized and where is it? None of the Northern DMUs have double sized wheels do they?
Going to be one hell of an interim period.What do people think about a joint operation between Northern and TPE, at least for an interim period until the Hope Valley line is electrified?
If the units are based at Longsight, TPE could operate the 3-car units for the South TPE route; the numbers match as if 14 of 16 are in use per day, this would mean 7 diagrams of double formation. It would allow TPE to give the loco hauled stock back to the leasing company which is what they want to do.
Northern could operate the 2-car units and use them in double formation for various suburban and regional diesel routes around Greater Manchester and the North West. This would release some Sprinters which could either go for scrap or be transferred to more rural routes elsewhere to provide additional capacity on these.
Why do you think that?It would allow TPE to give the loco hauled stock back to the leasing company which is what they want to do.
Why do you think that?
But they won’t be noisy or expensive once they’ve got electric locomotives for them.They don't want them because of the operating costs and because of complaints about how noisy the locomotives are.
Where have they actually said that?They don't want them because of the operating costs and because of complaints about how noisy the locomotives are.
Odd then, that they have gone out to tender for new electro-diesel locomotives for those sets. Not the action of a company wanting to get rid of them.They don't want them because of the operating costs and because of complaints about how noisy the locomotives are.
Gosh, whatever you do, don’t wind up the Northern contingent by prising their beloved 170s away from them!Class 175s could join Northern to release their 170s to EMR for Nottingham - Liverpool services, plus Derby - Norwich if applicable.
Tfw have asked to extend the 175s lease until March 2023, so the Caf depot at Chester will be a busy place this year. Who knows the 175s future but they are great long distance units
Is there capacity for them at Longsight? Previous posts have suggested there isn't.Will they not just move them all to Longsight depot once 197s start arriving at Chester?
Is there capacity for them at Longsight? Previous posts have suggested there isn't.
Chester is meant to be getting enhanced.There looks to be at least capacity on the outside sidings and perhaps Stockport sidings could be used for units not requiring maintenance or work. The problem is there won't be much capacity at Chester once 197s start arriving in bulk.
Will they not just move them all to Longsight depot once 197s start arriving at Chester?
It would involve training TfW drivers on Longsight depot - when they already have plenty of other things they need training on.There looks to be at least capacity on the outside sidings and perhaps Stockport sidings could be used for units not requiring maintenance or work. The problem is there won't be much capacity at Chester once 197s start arriving in bulk.
It's 1 x 197 in and 1 x 175 as per the original plan by tfw, but plans can change, tfw are struggling for unit storage as it is.Will they not just move them all to Longsight depot once 197s start arriving at Chester?