Class 319 LNR withdrawal date

[Silverlinky]

The loco went back to Derby as 0Z57 at 1210

 

[3973EXL]

Realtime Trains | 5Q76 0803 Northampton Emd to Newport Docks (Simsgroup) | 06/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q76 0803 departure from Northampton Emd to Newport Docks (Simsgroup) on 06/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[Poyntz]

Railway Mag is showing 220 as sold to MoD. Anyone know where it is now please?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Railway Mag is showing 220 as sold to MoD. Anyone know where it is now please?

That sounds like it's going to be target practice?

In which case there's only very few ranges it could be taken to, likely by road.

 

[Poyntz]

37800 with 214 219 en route Sims

 

[DBS92042]

37800 with 214 219 en route Sims

Consist as seen (and photoed) by me was 37800 + 319217 319219

 

[Poyntz]

Consist as seen (and photoed) by me was 37800 + 319217 319219

Apologies; many thanks for the correction.

 

[DBS92042]

Apologies; many thanks for the correction.

No worries

 

[Class455]

Any idea what 319217's last passenger service was?

 

[Jamesrob637]

Just 214 then to go out of the /2

 

[Merle Haggard]

Just 214 then to go out of the /2

Is that the one that's been against the stops at King's Heath with the pan up for quite a while? It's in white-with-Cambridge-blue-doors livery.

 

[Class455]

Just 214 then to go out of the /2

When did 215 go?

 

[Jturner98]

215 Last worked on 28/9/23

 

[Defiance149]

When did 215 go?

By road to Sims 9-10 Nov.

 

[Foxxle]

319214 seen by itself at Northampton EMD from a passing train on Saturday. There's an EMR class 360 there too

 

[webbstar11]

The loco went back to Derby as 0Z57 at 1210

Are 433 457 still in Camden CSD. Strange how all the earlier ones went NN to Sima by road but nobody has any photos of road moves. presumably by night. why majority by road ?

 

[JonathanH]

Are 433 457 still in Camden CSD.

Yes, a quick look at the Camden Railcam feed confirms they are still there.

 

[Silverlinky]

Yes, a quick look at the Camden Railcam feed confirms they are still there.

433 and 457 moved from Camden to Kings Heath this morning as 3N19.

 

[Bikeman78]

Well if a goodly number of cranks turn up one might revise that to "full of hot air"



Especially 'hot air' from the "johnny come latelies" who froth about 319s but spent the past +30 years ignoring them & that is me speaking as a Luton commuter who saw 319s in from new, replacing 317s, and, I was on 319s on their first day (but not first working) in traffic on BedPan (before Thameslink) and saw them right through to the last day, and have +600,000 miles of unit travel / +400,000 miles of actual distance travelled on them. ((400,000 miles over +30 years is not a lot in commuter terms, and my commuting has always been discontinuous through job changing, and never ever more than 3-4 days per week.))

But me appearing before sunrise next Monday is not going to happen. My 'farewell', if there is one, will be Friday evening peak, assuming it all pans out, or, I have already had it, yesterday.

I am doubting I will get up to Northern territory again before they go unless they linger longer than is currently predicted.

769s don't count for this purpose here.

I did my farewell bash last December on the penultimate Northampton. It was a former Connex unit and, surprise, the heaters were not working.

Regarding lastminute.coms, that seems to happen with most trains. Don't get it myself. I've never bothered with 465s, for example, so I doubt I'll turn up for the last one.

 

[43096]

Regarding lastminute.coms, that seems to happen with most trains. Don't get it myself. I've never bothered with 465s, for example, so I doubt I'll turn up for the last one.

I don't get it, either. In my view, you either like things or you don't (or are indifferent, I guess) and it doesn't matter if they're 4 months old, 4 years old or 40 years old. Must be depressing just chasing whatever is going next as a "Doom Basher"!

 

[The_Train]

I don't get it, either. In my view, you either like things or you don't (or are indifferent, I guess) and it doesn't matter if they're 4 months old, 4 years old or 40 years old. Must be depressing just chasing whatever is going next as a "Doom Basher"!

Why is it depressing? I don't like to nail my mast to any type of unit, I like to experience as much variation as I can and so it makes sense to chase the older stock first when it's life on the rails could end at any time. I went to South Wales yesterday and focused my time on sprinters over 197s or GWR IETs because 197s and IETs will probably outlive me whereas, subject to nothing unexpected happening with them or me, sprinters may not do.

 

[43096]

Why is it depressing? I don't like to nail my mast to any type of unit, I like to experience as much variation as I can and so it makes sense to chase the older stock first when it's life on the rails could end at any time. I went to South Wales yesterday and focused my time on sprinters over 197s or GWR IETs because 197s and IETs will probably outlive me whereas, subject to nothing unexpected happening with them or me, sprinters may not do.

Depressing - because you're forever going where the grim reaper is heading next!

 

[Bikeman78]

Why is it depressing? I don't like to nail my mast to any type of unit, I like to experience as much variation as I can and so it makes sense to chase the older stock first when it's life on the rails could end at any time. I went to South Wales yesterday and focused my time on sprinters over 197s or GWR IETs because 197s and IETs will probably outlive me whereas, subject to nothing unexpected happening with them or me, sprinters may not do.

That's rather different to turning out in droves for the last day. I racked up thousands of miles on class 317s in their last two years. In that time I doubt I saw five other enthusiasts. Granted not all of them are obvious but there are plenty of clues. There must have been over 100 people on the last day on the Hertfords which consisted of fairly average runs to Hertford East on a horrible hot sweaty day. I had many better runs to Cambridge and Stansted, not to mention Ipswich.

 

[The_Train]

Depressing - because you're forever going where the grim reaper is heading next!

So I should ignore the old stock that's due to go and just focus on the new stock that 'should' be around for the next 30-40 years? It's definitely a rush to get the new stuff in

That's rather different to turning out in droves for the last day. I racked up thousands of miles on class 317s in their last two years. In that time I doubt I saw five other enthusiasts. Granted not all of them are obvious but there are plenty of clues. There must have been over 100 people on the last day on the Hertfords which consisted of fairly average runs to Hertford East on a horrible hot sweaty day. I had many better runs to Cambridge and Stansted, not to mention Ipswich.

Final days of any stock will always attract extra numbers

 

[Jamesrob637]

Any scrap moves for these planned this week? 3 working days, and no Merseyrail or Northern moves planned.

 

[Poyntz]

Any scrap moves for these planned this week? 3 working days, and no Merseyrail or Northern moves planned.

Given that Sims had 16 vehicles last week & it's holidays, not surprising that nothing's planned.

5Q76 07 47 XND Sims Tuesday 2 January

 

[DBS92042]

5Q76 07 47 XND Sims Tuesday 2 January

This appears to be cancelled this morning, no inbound loco has arrived from Derby RTC

 

[Silverlinky]

This appears to be cancelled this morning, no inbound loco has arrived from Derby RTC

0H70 was cancelled due to "adverse weather conditions"

 

[Jamesrob637]

Any move planned this week?

 

[Poyntz]

Any move planned this week?

Nothing so far . Allerton run tomorrow then possibly Birkenhead later in the week.