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kevin_roche

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Yes ELR110 software update did happen just after the Christmas period.

West portal transition is being tested on Sunday 9 January 2022 between Abbey Wood and Acton Main line. Trains then run ecs to west Ealing loop before returning back to Acton Main line for the next departure back to Abbey wood
Thank you, that is interesting, but i was really wondering about the update to the train software by Alstom (was Bombardier) which is also due to be done for ETCS rather than the Siemens CBTC software. Hopefully the test of the West Portal transition is because the ETCS software has been updated.
 
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Yes ELR110 software update did happen just after the Christmas period.

West portal transition is being tested on Sunday 9 January 2022 between Abbey Wood and Acton Main line. Trains then run ecs to west Ealing loop before returning back to Acton Main line for the next departure back to Abbey wood
Some appear to go to Acton Main Line and some to and from the depot

 

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Many of these services don't seem to be running.

Several of the 9Zs and 3Us do seem to have run (link), but as it suggests they've had to be woven into the regular GWML traffic and have been incurring delay.

There's also been an ongoing signalling issue at Ealing Broadway today means trains have not run on their usual lines and some have therefore been cancelled.
 
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0903 345017 7
0922 345056 7
5N04 345063
5G74/75 345022
0952 345014 7
5G50 Caped
5G56 Caped
 
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5G74/75 etc
345003 9

12/01 345003 on G74/75 again.

13/01
0903 345038 7
0922 345056 7
5N04 345040
5G74/75 345003
0952 345016 7
1022 345011

14/01
0922 345013 7
5N04 345014 7
5G74/75 345003
0952 345038 7

5G50 & 5G56 have not run this week.
 
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I wonder if this test will have to be repeated because of the disruption. It certainly doesn't look like many trains ran through to Acton.
Yes it will be.

This Sunday they will try to replicate 18tph service. 10 tph will be Westbourne park to Abbey wood and 8tph Westbourne Park to Stratford
 

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Yes it will be.

This Sunday they will try to replicate 18tph service. 10 tph will be Westbourne park to Abbey wood and 8tph Westbourne Park to Stratford
I'm guessing that these are the sort of tests they really need a few more months to perfect which are considerations in delaying the opening from 6 March to a date in May. You would hope that they find some sort of opportunity to run 24tph one Sunday before it opens rather than trying to do it live. Opening and then having to close for a few weekends to do 24tph testing would result in bad publicity.

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345003 9
Good to see confirmation of 345003 out as a 9-car unit on the testing diagram. Apart from 345009 being converted which was taken out of service around the end of December, I think all the remaining 11 7-car units have been 'seen' in service this year.
 

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Currently the 6th March 2022 is still the plan to open Abbey Wood to Paddington. But things might change
 

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You would hope that they find some sort of opportunity to run 24tph one Sunday before it opens rather than trying to do it live. Opening and then having to close for a few weekends to do 24tph testing would result in bad publicity.
As I understand it they do not think the current ELR110 software can mange 24tph and that the upgrade to ELR200 will be needed for 24ph. I don't know the details of why.
 
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As I understand it they do no think the current ELR110 software can mange 24tph and that the upgrade to ELR200 will be needed for 24ph. I don't know the details of why.

Might be the difference in spacing, there is a big difference in running at 2.5 minute intervals vs running 24 trains, but some are nearer 90 second intervals and others 3.5 minute intervals. You cannot assume all trains will run exactly to time.

However I am slightly miffed why Sundays test of the signalling transition in Westbourne Park area involved running trains all the way to Abbey Wood when there are reversing facilities elsewhere eg Custom House.
 

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Might be the difference in spacing, there is a big difference in running at 2.5 minute intervals vs running 24 trains, but some are nearer 90 second intervals and others 3.5 minute intervals. You cannot assume all trains will run exactly to time.

However I am slightly miffed why Sundays test of the signalling transition in Westbourne Park area involved running trains all the way to Abbey Wood when there are reversing facilities elsewhere eg Custom House

To simulate the train service plus driver facilities are at Abbey Wood.
 

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345022 is in service today (14-Jan) in the East as a 9 car. It left Stratford @ 08.11 to Liverpool St.

JW
 

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345 032 back in service in East tonight (14 January)

Thanks for tip about 345 022, I'll look out for that one too!


Edit: Sat 15 January
345 022 was in East yesterday but it's back in the West today as 9-car in passenger service. Just in case anyone looking for it!
 
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Yes it will be.

This Sunday they will try to replicate 18tph service. 10 tph will be Westbourne park to Abbey wood and 8tph Westbourne Park to Stratford
Just for information, this didn’t happen today due to a set of points west of SRA platform 5 being plain-lined, meaning it was impossible to use both platforms. A much reduced service operated with trains operating to both ABW and SRA platform 8 using ATO.
 

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Just for information, this didn’t happen today due to a set of points west of SRA platform 5 being plain-lined, meaning it was impossible to use both platforms. A much reduced service operated with trains operating to both ABW and SRA platform 8 using ATO.
Didn't the planners of to his test know that the infrastructure in Stratford wouldn't support this?

Also presumably, it would be fairly vital for future operational flexibility to be able to turn services from the West on both platforms 5 & 8!
 

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Didn't the planners of to his test know that the infrastructure in Stratford wouldn't support this?

Also presumably, it would be fairly vital for future operational flexibility to be able to turn services from the West on both platforms 5 & 8!
Presumably it was a late notice change. I think the point is that services can terminate from the West in both platforms 5 and 8 under normal circumstances.
 
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depends when they were plain lined. It may have been very recently (it Must be a temporary measure due to a defect)
I had noticed the points as being plain lined back in November when I was learning the route. Seems like they’ve been forgotten about.

Also presumably, it would be fairly vital for future operational flexibility to be able to turn services from the West on both platforms 5 & 8!
Possibly not too vital as most trains would continue to / from the Great Eastern lines once the whole route opens. Stratford is usually busy enough without disgorging train loads of passengers there.

A train might turn there if a fault meant it wouldn’t be able to operate on TPWS but could operate on CBTC. This would be fairly rare however.
 
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Today (17-Jan) 345006 (9 car) worked 10:22 Reading - Paddington which is one of the changeover diagrams.
It was changed over for 345007 (9-car) for the 11:43 Back to Reading.
I don't think that either of these have been reported in passenger service yet.

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Today (17-Jan) 345006 (9 car) worked 10:22 Reading - Paddington which is one of the changeover diagrams.
It was changed over for 345007 (9-car) for the 11:43 Back to Reading.
I don't think that either of these have been reported in passenger service yet.

JW
345007 was the first 345 to ever work in passenger service back in 2017! 345006 has also definitely ran as I’ve had it. Unless you mean first time as nine cars?
 

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Today (17-Jan) 345006 (9 car) worked 10:22 Reading - Paddington which is one of the changeover diagrams.
It was changed over for 345007 (9-car) for the 11:43 Back to Reading.
I don't think that either of these have been reported in passenger service yet.

JW
Not as 9 cars I don't think, but I'm sure they've both been in use as 7 cars and I have them both for haulage. I can check when I get home; I'm at work at the moment.
 

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345007 was the first 345 to ever work in passenger service back in 2017! 345006 has also definitely ran as I’ve had it. Unless you mean first time as nine cars?
Absolutely, the OP is referring to first time passenger usage as nine cars. A very helpful post to record that fact.
 

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I'm told that the national vehicle register shows sets 345018/024/031/036 are still showing as status "Delivered for trial running", where we know that the latter three are all in passenger service. Presumably the appropriate paperwork for them has been missed?
 

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Absolutely, the OP is referring to first time passenger usage as nine cars. A very helpful post to record that fact.

It may muddy the waters somewhat but I had 6, as a 9 car from Reading to Slough last Friday (14th)
 

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It may muddy the waters somewhat but I had 6, as a 9 car from Reading to Slough last Friday (14th)
Yes, and for it to be on one of the changeover diagrams this morning it would have had to be at Maidenhead overnight last night as well.

Still, at least there is now an observation that these two are in passenger service after their conversion. With 345022 also now having entered service following conversion, I guess attention turns to 345003's re-entry to service, 345009's conversion and whether 345018/019/041/067/069 are going to see passenger use in the near term.
 

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0903 345038 7
0922 345005
5N04 345004
5G74/75 345003
0952 345056 7
1022 345028
1052 345012 7
1222 345042 7
1252 345016 7
 
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