Class 387

[cactustwirly]

I know that Wikipedia is not always correct, but reading through the details of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Oak_Common_TMD to me it sees to suggest that the there is electrification in around the OOC GWR/FGW depot.

Also, as it states in the photo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_O..._Common_Sidings_-_geograph.org.uk_-_22039.jpg, the GWR depot is to the right.

This photo http://walesrails.smugmug.com/keyword/old oak common tmd;class 57/i-cTKRVJr/A, seems to show wires being available, unless they are from the GWML?

From my observations, only the HX/HC part is wired

 

[smiffy9373]

I believe that the work going on next to Plassey at West Ealing will be 2 sidings for 8 car 387s to be stabled during the day between peaks.

 

[Philip Phlopp]

From my observations, only the HX/HC part is wired

Yes, the Siemens depot is electrified, the First depot (the HST depot) 'across the way' isn't. The Factory wasn't wired either.

 

[leomartin125]

From my knowledge, when I spoke to the Yard Manager at Old Oak Common, he specifically stated that nothing GWR had at OOC was electrified and/or would ever be electrified. There are no plans to do anything with OOC other than knock it down in 2018 in preparation for the Crossrail depot. No Class 387's or 800's will ever be stored at OOC, this is why they have North Pole, Stoke Gifford and Cardiff for the IEP's and Reading T.C. and West Ealing Carriage Sidings for the 387's. OOC is only going one way, down.

 

[Philip Phlopp]

From my knowledge, when I spoke to the Yard Manager at Old Oak Common, he specifically stated that nothing GWR had at OOC was electrified and/or would ever be electrified. There are no plans to do anything with OOC other than knock it down in 2018 in preparation for the Crossrail depot. No Class 387's or 800's will ever be stored at OOC, this is why they have North Pole, Stoke Gifford and Cardiff for the IEP's and Reading T.C. and West Ealing Carriage Sidings for the 387's. OOC is only going one way, down.

Bombardier/Crossrail's depot goes on the site of 'The Factory' (the old locomotive depot to the north of the site) and HS2 sits on top of the HST and Siemens depots through the central section of the site, with Hitachi's North Pole taking up the south section of the site.

Siemens depot moves to Langley under the plans.

 

[43074]

Today's Railways UK are reporting the remaining GWR units will be numbered 387138 - 387174; construction on 387138 onward will commence after the 387301 - 306 have been completed, with the last unit - 387174 - complete by late summer 2017.

They also have a good photo feature of the c2c 387s under construction which may be of interest.

 

[swt_passenger]

Today's Railways UK are reporting the remaining GWR units will be numbered 387138 - 387174; construction on 387138 onward will commence after the 387301 - 306 have been completed, with the last unit - 387174 - complete by late summer 2017.

Is there any info on the vehicle number sequences, i.e. are the 387/3s in the same vehicle number sequence as the rest of the 'speculative 20' order, or have they been tweaked...

 

[43074]

Is there any info on the vehicle number sequences, i.e. are the 387/3s in the same vehicle number sequence as the rest of the 'speculative 20' order, or have they been tweaked...

All the article says is that the GWR sets will be numbered ''in sequence in the Class 387/1 series'', which I assume means both set and vehicle numbers will be in the /1 series?

 

[swt_passenger]

All the article says is that the GWR sets will be numbered ''in sequence in the Class 387/1 series'', which I assume means both set and vehicle numbers will be in the /1 series?

OK, probably a bit of a premature question then. As you imply the latest convention appears to use the unit number as the last 3 of the 6 digit vehicle number, so the answer will no doubt become clear when a fully finished 387/3 first appears.

 

[gwr4090]

From my knowledge, when I spoke to the Yard Manager at Old Oak Common, he specifically stated that nothing GWR had at OOC was electrified and/or would ever be electrified. There are no plans to do anything with OOC other than knock it down in 2018 in preparation for the Crossrail depot. No Class 387's or 800's will ever be stored at OOC, this is why they have North Pole, Stoke Gifford and Cardiff for the IEP's and Reading T.C. and West Ealing Carriage Sidings for the 387's. OOC is only going one way, down.

...and Swansea Maliphant not Cardiff for the IEPs ?

 

[reddragon]

387131 & 130 were in North Pole this morning & moved this afternoon.

No sign of 387 132 or 133

 

[ungreat]

Saw a Thameslink 3871 today at kings cross 4 car unit
Think it was driver training

It was indeed..brake handling to be precise. It went to Connington just south of Peterborough and return

 

[trainmania100]

Does anyone know when the next GWR class 387 Brighton mainline DC testing will operate? I'd like to see one in my local area however the last time it ran I was working

 

[swt_passenger]

Does anyone know when the next GWR class 387 Brighton mainline DC testing will operate? I'd like to see one in my local area however the last time it ran I was working

I don't think they are very predictable, but the obvious thing to do is to check Bletchley T.M.D. on realtimetrains and check for delivery paths that run, and then return trips to Brighton that will just be activated on the day.

Unless I've missed a recent move, there are no GW units at Bletchley at this time.

 

[leomartin125]

I don't think they are very predictable, but the obvious thing to do is to check Bletchley T.M.D. on realtimetrains and check for delivery paths that run, and then return trips to Brighton that will just be activated on the day.

Unless I've missed a recent move, there are no GW units at Bletchley at this time.

Well put it this way, all GWR 387 units that were at Bletchley are now at North Pole IEP Depot, so until another delivery run occurs from Derby Litchurch Lane to Bletchley, it's unlikely you will see any GWR 387's down that way for a while.

 

[reddragon]

387 132 & 133 must have been hiding in the shed yesterday then as only 130 & 131 were visible at North Pole. They were not at Reading or OOC either.

 

[swt_passenger]

Well put it this way, all GWR 387 units that were at Bletchley are now at North Pole IEP Depot, so until another delivery run occurs from Derby Litchurch Lane to Bletchley, it's unlikely you will see any GWR 387's down that way for a while.

Which was exactly what I was implying.

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387 132 & 133 must have been hiding in the shed yesterday then as only 130 & 131 were visible at North Pole. They were not at Reading or OOC either.

They were only delivered on two separate nights earlier this week, so it isn't that surprising that they were not straight out.

 

[leomartin125]

Which was exactly what I was implying.

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They were only delivered on two separate nights earlier this week, so it isn't that surprising that they were not straight out.

First of all, if a 387 was in Reading T.C.D. we would know about it as I would post it the second I saw it on RTT! And second of all, 387132 and 387133 are rumoured to be getting GWR livery (branding applied) around now, so must be getting painted inside the depot. They will be the first two units to be ready for September's start.

 

[reddragon]

With the wiring going up between Reading depot and Tilehurst Station as we speak, Reading will also be able to take them out to play with to Didcot!

The fittings have been completed from the depot, along the access track and the up relief to Tilehurst. Wires are mostly up now on the reliefs, with only Tilehurst Junction and the depot access left to wire up.

 

[swt_passenger]

First of all, if a 387 was in Reading T.C.D. we would know about it as I would post it the second I saw it on RTT!

Did I mention Reading at all? You need to quote the right post.

 

[jimm]

And second of all, 387132 and 387133 are rumoured to be getting GWR livery (branding applied) around now, so must be getting painted inside the depot. They will be the first two units to be ready for September's start.

GWR depot staff won't be painting anything on the 387s, just adding the vinyl elements of the livery on to the coat of green paint applied by Bombardier when it builds the trains. Same as they add the vinyls to the Turbos when they return from overhaul at Wolverton in a new coat of green paint.

 

[FGW_DID]

GWR decals are applied (at Depot) by external contractors.

Even if they do wire the reliefs up to the Depot entrance, until they turn the power on, we wont be doing anything with 387s. There is work planned for this weekend to run the wires into the connection at the Tilehurst end.

As previously mentioned a few times, 387s are being outstabled at N Pole and any that require maintenance (scheduled exams etc) they will be dragged from N Pole to Reading TCD using a Class 57. Even so that's not going to happen until at least the west yard is energised.

 

[leomartin125]

GWR depot staff won't be painting anything on the 387s, just adding the vinyl elements of the livery on to the coat of green paint applied by Bombardier when it builds the trains. Same as they add the vinyls to the Turbos when they return from overhaul at Wolverton in a new coat of green paint.

"Branding Applied" doesn't make sense to you?

 

[43096]

"Branding Applied" doesn't make sense to you?

You used the word "painted". They are not being painted at North Pole. So he is correct.

 

[JN114]

They will be the first two units to be ready for September's start.

I don't know where this supposition comes from but its is entirely baseless - any of the 4 delivered units could be called upon to run the first public trips in September. The decision as to which goes out will be jointly agreed between the Reading TCD Production Manager and LTV Train Service Controller, during the course of the days before they are due to enter service (when that eventually arrives) - and will be liable to change right up to the moment it leaves Hayes in passenger service on that first morning. Just because 132/133 are currently having branding applied doesn't preclude the two currently unbranded units being finished before the class enters GWR service.

Please don't pass off your own assumptions and things you've supposedly been told as fact. They are more often than not completely wrong, and I highly doubt any staff would have told you the things they supposedly have if they knew the first thing you were going to do with it is post it on a very public Internet forum.

 

[RobShipway]

I don't know where this supposition comes from but its is entirely baseless - any of the 4 delivered units could be called upon to run the first public trips in September. The decision as to which goes out will be jointly agreed between the Reading TCD Production Manager and LTV Train Service Controller, during the course of the days before they are due to enter service (when that eventually arrives) - and will be liable to change right up to the moment it leaves Hayes in passenger service on that first morning. Just because 132/133 are currently having branding applied doesn't preclude the two currently unbranded units being finished before the class enters GWR service.

Please don't pass off your own assumptions and things you've supposedly been told as fact. They are more often than not completely wrong, and I highly doubt any staff would have told you the things they supposedly have if they knew the first thing you were going to do with it is post it on a very public Internet forum.

The way that I am reading leomartin125 post is that units 132/133 will be the first to be ready prior to the start of the service in September, he is not stated that they will be the first units used in service. As you state that can change within days, hours and possibly minutes before the start of the service.

 

[Quark999]

Looked to me like 3 class 387 in GWR livery parked outside of North Pole depot just now, 132 was one of them, couldn't quite see the other two. Changed from yesterday when it looked like just one parked a bit further west...

 

[leomartin125]

I can confirm after a visit to London yesterday, as well as this picture I took yesterday:

https://twitter.com/frankmichin125/status/764053216648540160

That all the GWR 387's are still at North Pole so that can put that at rest. 387131 was on test (as shown) meanwhile 387130 was sat on it's own in the Eastern North Pole Carriage Sidings, and 387132 and 387133 were coupled up to each other sat next to 387130.

 

[317 forever]

Initially they are doing to be doing a peak only service of 8 car trains with just four units. Things on last like that for long, especially with 8 units expected before the timetable change.

But right now driver training is serious challenge with so few units.

When Crossrail takes over with its 4tph in place of Heathrow Connect, using its dedicated Class 345 stock, this temporary GWR Hayes & Harlington all stations service will finish. You won't get both services operating at the same time.

Strange as that is not what GWR tell me, as I am told by them that the class 387's will be based out of both Reading and OOC or any replacement depot for OOC as when HS2 will be built which could include West Ealing if that is going to be the replacement for OOC and be used by GWR, what else would be stabled in this depot?

All this suggests that the 387s' use on Paddington - Hayes & Harlington services are temporary, and that they will eventually be used on electrified routes to Reading, Oxford & Newbury.

 

[D365]

All this suggests that the 387s' use on Paddington - Hayes & Harlington services are temporary, and that they will eventually be used on electrified routes to Reading, Oxford & Newbury.

Was anybody claiming otherwise?