Class 455 and 458 ongoing maintenance updates

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I created SWR Metro Fleet Withdrawals to monitor the withdrawal process (obviously I had expected 701s to be imminent at the time, so it didn’t seem premature back then) and permanent standing down/handing back of 455/456/458/707 by SWR.

Naturally we’ve discussed the withdrawal of 456 and some of the 455/707 on there which is great.

But a lot of you want to discuss the ongoing maintenance of 455s - and occasionally 458s - and that’s not related to permanent withdrawals. So I’ve made this thread for you to continue that discussion there to keep the thread I made about the withdrawals.

455849 is in passenger service today (17/05) on 2H93 1743 London Waterloo to Shepperton

5724 back in service on 30/05 - It needed a replacement choke in the traction case. The choke is absolutely massive and on the bottom part of the traction case, requiring the traction container to be removed and inverted, the container weighing over a tonne. An absolute nightmare to change.

5909 back in service on 05/06

Any sign of 5905?

Fill your boots.

 

[55017]

I created SWR Metro Fleet Withdrawals to monitor the withdrawal process (obviously I had expected 701s to be imminent at the time, so it didn’t seem premature back then) and permanent standing down/handing back of 455/456/458/707 by SWR.

Naturally we’ve discussed the withdrawal of 456 and some of the 455/707 on there which is great.

But a lot of you want to discuss the ongoing maintenance of 455s - and occasionally 458s - and that’s not related to permanent withdrawals. So I’ve made this thread for you to continue that discussion there to keep the thread I made about the withdrawals.






Fill your boots.

I wondered about the status of 458533, which doesn’t seem to have run for some 18 months, and is not off-lease as far as I’m aware.

 

[WarrenTManager]

I wondered about the status of 458533, which doesn’t seem to have run for some 18 months, and is not off-lease as far as I’m aware.

8533 needs multiple wheelsets. Motor wheelsets are an issue as the 458/4 uses a 100mph gearbox so a lot of the spare wheelsets were moved to that project for conversion. Leaving the requirement for 75mph gearboxes behind in the queue. And 8533 donated some of it’s good wheels to other units to keep them going during the hiatus.

Wheelsets are coming through now but in small numbers so the units only needing one may get a wheel they need and lifting facilities are almost always in use so the unit won’t get started til they have all the wheels for it.

 

[55017]

8533 needs multiple wheelsets. Motor wheelsets are an issue as the 458/4 uses a 100mph gearbox so a lot of the spare wheelsets were moved to that project for conversion. Leaving the requirement for 75mph gearboxes behind in the queue. And 8533 donated some of it’s good wheels to other units to keep them going during the hiatus.

Wheelsets are coming through now but in small numbers so the units only needing one may get a wheel they need and lifting facilities are almost always in use so the unit won’t get started til they have all the wheels for it.

Thanks for letting me know!

 

[Andy Pacer]

Can I just ask if any of the following are long term out of use:

455711
455850
455863
455870
455902
455905
455915
455920

Thanks in advance

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Can I just ask if any of the following are long term out of use:

455711
455850
455863
455870
455902
455905
455915
455920

Thanks in advance

I'm pretty sure I had 455 920 for haulage recently.

 

[Andy Pacer]

I'm pretty sure I had 455 920 for haulage recently.

Thanks, they're the last few I need but some of them haven't been around on my last couple of visits (over the past month or so). Might just be a coincidence.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Thanks, they're the last few I need but some of them haven't been around on my last couple of visits (over the past month or so). Might just be a coincidence.

I just checked RTT for you; none out at the moment although there are some additional peak diagrams in the mornings and evenings.

Looking at my notes, I think it was that I saw 455 920, not bashed it, but it was in service. That would have been 22nd April, so possibly too far back to read anything in to.

 

[gazr]

Just seen a ROG 37 hauling a single 455/8 through Wimbledon (didn't catch the number). Is this off for scrap?

 

[CR165022]

Just seen a ROG 37 hauling a single 455/8 through Wimbledon (didn't catch the number). Is this off for scrap?

It's heading to Bournemouth Im pretty sure

 

[swr444]

It's heading to Bournemouth Im pretty sure

Can confirm I saw it pass through SOU earlier

 

[WarrenTManager]

Just seen a ROG 37 hauling a single 455/8 through Wimbledon (didn't catch the number). Is this off for scrap?

37884 and 5863. The unit is going to Bournemouth for a C4 overhaul.

 

[Falkland Yard]

Car 77821 of set 5905 seen parked on a southbound layby on the A77 Kilmarnock bypass at about 0730hrs today.

 

[WarrenTManager]

8506 has been reformed after the DMSO car that went away came back from Brodies. It went on a test run to Effingham on Monday, a few minor niggles to sort out and it should be good to go. Now status OK and declared as a prepped spare today

5915 now changed to Status OK. Needs a test run.

5730 should be on the Bournemouth run tomorrow 07/07 for C4.

5915 had a successful test run on 29/06.

A short diagram on the 30th 2H89/2H96 and then back with full diagrams yesterday and today.

8506 reentered traffic on 30/06

 

[Andy Pacer]

8506 has been reformed after the DMSO car that went away came back from Brodies. It went on a test run to Effingham on Monday, a few minor niggles to sort out and it should be good to go. Now status OK and declared as a prepped spare today

5915 now changed to Status OK. Needs a test run.

5730 should be on the Bournemouth run tomorrow 07/07 for C4.

5915 had a successful test run on 29/06.

A short diagram on the 30th 2H89/2H96 and then back with full diagrams yesterday and today.

8506 reentered traffic on 30/06

Thanks for the updates, I can try and find 5915 next time in the right area.

 

[50002Superb]

8506 has been reformed after the DMSO car that went away came back from Brodies. It went on a test run to Effingham on Monday, a few minor niggles to sort out and it should be good to go. Now status OK and declared as a prepped spare today

5915 now changed to Status OK. Needs a test run.

5730 should be on the Bournemouth run tomorrow 07/07 for C4.

5915 had a successful test run on 29/06.

A short diagram on the 30th 2H89/2H96 and then back with full diagrams yesterday and today.

8506 reentered traffic on 30/06

Any idea what the status is with 5902 please?

 

[WarrenTManager]

5902 is at Bournemouth on C4. Not sure which unit will be coming back on 07/07 as there are a few down there.

 

[50002Superb]

5902 is at Bournemouth on C4. Not sure which unit will be coming back on 07/07 as there are a few down there.

Ok, thank you!!

Do you know which others are also on C4?

 

[GW43125]

You're probably sick of hearing this by now, but any idea if 5722 is returning to service any time soon please? Was told a month or two ago it was having test runs prior to coming back off maintenance.

 

[swr444]

Are 455/458's going to be used on the sheppys once the 707s go in a few months?

 

[WarrenTManager]

The DTS from 5905 that has been away returned from Kilmarnock today.
5850 is in the shed being rebuilt for a return to service.

 

[GW43125]

458502 back in service. Had it on Friday morning, first time this year.

 

[WarrenTManager]

5850 came out but had a MA issue so it went off to Wimbledon as a precaution rather than risk croaking on 2H89

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Deleted, wrong SWR thread

 

[43096]

There was a question in another thread about the whereabouts of 458522. It's back in service - seen today.

 

[GW43125]

458501 showed up this afternoon for the first time since June. Has it been out of use or just evading me?

 

[swr444]

455850 is back in service looking very shiny indeed

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[444045]

U.458516 was on 5B39 10+01 Wimbledon Park to Bournemouth Depot yesterday, could be next unit to go to Widnes for conversation

or C6 overhaul at Bournemouth.

 

[norbitonflyer]

455850 is back in service looking very shiny indeed

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Looks like a fresh coat of paint. They must still have some red left over. had they known the 455s were still going to be in service six years down the line, would they have started painting them in SWR livery? (Anyone out there with photoshop skills able to do one?)

 

[DelW]

Looks like a fresh coat of paint. They must still have some red left over. had they known the 455s were still going to be in service six years down the line, would they have started painting them in SWR livery? (Anyone out there with photoshop skills able to do one?)

Well, SWR haven't exactly rushed to repaint the diesels, which were always going to be retained for years to come, so I rather doubt it. We're over six years on from the FG / MTR takeover, and even the flagship Desiros aren't all reliveried yet.