transmanche
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Oh believe me, it was!Worth bearing in mind that the District Line stock was never disliked too.
Oh believe me, it was!Worth bearing in mind that the District Line stock was never disliked too.
Are they actually wider at entrance step level? There are platforms on LU where both Tube and sub-surface gauge stock call, and although the step is up or down to the two types I don't think there is a big horizontal difference. In any case the platforms will have to be built up to give level boarding to the Vivarail units, so any horizontal changes can be done at the same time and don't cost any extra.I'd say the one proviso is platform clearances.The D78's are substantially wider bodies than the 38 stock(20cm more i think), and with a longer wheelbase on the carriage.
If the 484s enter service next year the underlying units will be 40 years old. The 483s were 50 years old when they started operation, so not that much of a difference.
In which case the last stock type I will see on the island.Astonishing to think that, if the 484s have the same innings as the 38 stock, then Vivarail's legacy will still be running in 2059!
You could actually run a 15 minute frequency with 4 of the 5 units.
But let’s get real. It wouldn’t be a good use of taxpayers money to buy a few extra trains just on the off chance that a decision was made a few years down the line to increase the service beyond what is envisaged under this upgrade.
ryde esplanade will need a bit of shaving off the platform edge, and the 484's will have to use end doors only(so middle sealed and seating bay fitted)
So exactly the same artists impression as per the SWR PR linked in post #1?Better view of the livery from the side
Unchanged internal layout with SWR colours applied (although as someone pointed out earlier, the seats look to be a lighter blue).Better get going to the Isle of Wight then
Great news for vivarail at least? Any ideas or mock ups of a 484 yet? It will be interesting to see if they have SWR livery on them?
Didnt see that. Was the only artist impression i didnt seeSo exactly the same artists impression as per the SWR PR linked in post #1?
Any more information? as this seems to all have just sizzled away
Any more information? as this seems to all have just sizzled away
They don’t say the same for pacersThe Guardian said:Isle of Wight’s rattling, rolling, charming ex-tube trains face end of the line
Is this being done? Or is it not as much of a problem as I imagine it might be?
Reduce the track height back to around where it was pre being raised for LU stock in most cases.There is a significant difference in floor height between the 483 (based on the Standard Stock deep tube train) and the 484 (based on a higher floored subsurface tube train). This will surely create some additional difficulty boarding wheelchairs? I've seen the typical yellow ramps being used in Island Line videos, but surely it'll be a struggle to get a heavy unmotorised chair up a fairly steep slope between the current platform height and the new trains floor height unless they build some platform humps or similar.
Is this being done? Or is it not as much of a problem as I imagine it might be?
Reduce the track height back to around where it was pre being raised for LU stock in most cases.
Well as the entire track needs replacing because you can't run at any speed over knackered wooden sleepers, I've got off a 483 and felt unwell with the amount of movement you achieve even sat down.Reduce the track height back to around where it was pre being raised for LU stock in most cases.
on one side of the island...?...the service and the rolling stock the island needs.
Yes, yes, scrap the steam heritage railway and start running other services via Smallbrook Junction towards nowhere! The days of the whole island being connected are well goneView attachment 72418
Newport isn't nowhere, but the IOWSR only gets as far as Wootton which is just a nowhere sort of half way ish between the two biggest somewheres on the island.Newport isn't "nowhere", it's more "somewhere" than anywhere served by the present line, really!
Newport isn't "nowhere", it's more "somewhere" than anywhere served by the present line, really!
It is a bit surprising the Newport-Cowes section didn’t survive
It's surprising that any of it survived.