Class 484 to replace class 483 on the island line

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  1. Helvellyn

    Helvellyn Established Member

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    I wonder how much BR owning the ferries had anything to do with it, especially the need to get people to/from Ryde Pierhead?
     
  2. Journeyman

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    Quite a lot, I think. When the use of tube stock was first being considered, one plan was to only retain the line between Pier Head and St. John's Road, with a new bus station at the latter point. The pier section was always busier than the rest of the line - for many years a frequent Pier Head to Esplanade shuttle supplemented the through trains.
     
  3. Chris125

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    It wasn't that surprising - it was obvious the pier shuttle wouldn't cope alone and it was soon confirmed that adapting the pier for buses and coaches was impractical and excessively expensive, so a railway service was unavoidable.

    With the plans already evolving from a Pier Head-Esplanade service to one serving a new bus station at St Johns, retaining the line through to Shanklin wasn't such a massive leap.

    Tourist traffic clearly isn't what it was, but that 6 train service is misleading - it only ever ran on a few summer Saturdays in the early years; otherwise the normal summer service was more like 2 or 3tph and only hourly during the winter, an incredibly inefficient operation compared to today.

    Anyway, I fear we are going a tad off-topic...!
     
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  4. Neen Sollars

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  5. jopsuk

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    The 230s. The 484s will be running on 3rd rail
     
  6. Chris125

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    It's all gone wrong again - only one set available, and only one carriage in passenger use!
     
  7. mackeral1234

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    How just one carriage
     
  8. Doomotron

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    One locked out of use?
     
  9. Lockwood

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    I guess the correct question is "why one carriage"?
     
  10. Chris125

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    Correct.
     
  11. Xenophon PCDGS

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    Would that single car be adequate at this time of the year to cope with passenger loadings?
     
  12. Doomotron

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    My guess is no. Last time I went, in October, it was quite packed around noon (that said, a ferry had just arrived).
     
  13. Xenophon PCDGS

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    Perhaps this time in February, when the weather is normally more inclement than in October, may have different passenger loadings.
     
  14. Chris125

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    There's probably enough physical room to squeeze everyone in at this time of year (if they refuse anyone with a pram or bike), but this really isn't acceptable or sustainable especially as spring and summer approaches.
     
  15. NorthernSpirit

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    The rate its looking SWR may as well suspend the service so that they can get the units repaired, the faster the new 484's come into use the better. Just imagine if this was during July or August.
     
  16. Peter Sarf

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    I only hope that SWR might be slaughtering availability during the quiet season so as allow more comprehensive work to be done on the 483s in extended periods of downtime. So they are more ready for the summer.
     
  17. supervc-10

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    That would be logical forward planning... and therefore, I'm not sure that would apply to SWR :lol:
     

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