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Don't know who that is but I know who is bringing the unit over.
 
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Goldfish62 said:
It's not going to return - mass commuting as we knew it is dead. But yes, you're correct of course re the 707s being with the operator for potentially many years. If anything they allow early displacement of some Networkers.
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Must be rubbing that goldfish bowl of yours... Mass Commuting isn't necessarily dead. Sure most people are WFH atm but who says that will remain that way? Not everyone enjoys it or can do it comfortably...
 
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Must be rubbing that goldfish bowl of yours... Mass Commuting isn't necessarily dead. Sure most people are WFH atm but who says that will remain that way? Not everyone enjoys it or can do it comfortably...
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I can safely say, based on experience and speaking to stacks of folk across a broad spectrum, that there will be a 25% (ish) drop in weekly journeys. That accounts for a large number of people working 2-3 days a week in offices in London only, and obviously some jobs that require all-week commuting.

I suspect we could, if we timetabled appropriately, smack down the Bexleyheath and Sidcup lines to eight trains an hour, all of 12 coaches, and then use 376s and 707s on the likes of the Woolwich and Hayes lines.
 
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4-SUB 4732 said:
I can safely say, based on experience and speaking to stacks of folk across a broad spectrum, that there will be a 25% (ish) drop in weekly journeys. That accounts for a large number of people working 2-3 days a week in offices in London only, and obviously some jobs that require all-week commuting.

I suspect we could, if we timetabled appropriately, smack down the Bexleyheath and Sidcup lines to eight trains an hour, all of 12 coaches, and then use 376s and 707s on the likes of the Woolwich and Hayes lines.
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Is that 8tph for the combined two lines, or 8tph per line, and peak and/or off-peak?
 
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While the peaks may die down off-peak should grow strongly. You just have to look at all the towers now rising at Kidbrooke and Lewisham to give two locations. Most of the thousands of new homes are car-free, near the railway line and offer quick links to leisure destinations.

Not that existing stock can't handle that rise in off-peak - it's just an observation that demand may not drop but be staggered throughout the day (which is good for capacity).

I do think in 3 years though we'll be back to near 2019 levels even around the peaks - many news homes will ensure that even if people are working fewer days in Z1.
 
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londonteacher said:
They are both STP though
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If you look at the scheduled platforms, platform 18 2V67 comes in and I assume that makes 5Y81 (Most ECS to Wimbledon Park have “Y” in the head code). There are currently no scheduled departures to go back out of platform 24 but I agree, if this is the supposed move, I find it strange it’s under SWR and not a freight move? We shall see.
 
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Whatever paths everyone thinks it is so far, is not the path. No point scouring RealTime for stuff that isn’t yet in the system.
 
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HstFan33 said:
When do you think the path will be put in the system on RealTimeTrains
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No idea when and how RTT harvest their data and therefore what time lag exists between entry into system at NR and then upload and down to the website.

Still nothing at the moment. Haven’t checked RTT but it’s not pathed yet.
 
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RTT isn't the quickest to upload, I'm guessing it will appear as a VST working now. I'm on nights tonight, I'll keep refreshing and post back if I find anything
 
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Fincra5 said:
Must be rubbing that goldfish bowl of yours... Mass Commuting isn't necessarily dead. Sure most people are WFH atm but who says that will remain that way? Not everyone enjoys it or can do it comfortably...
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Can you explain your first comment? I don't understand it. Thanks.

The TOCs appear to be targeting 75% pre-Covid levels long-term, DfT think this is too optimistic. I could dissect and challenge your comments, but we're already going too OT (sorry Mods!)
 
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Goldfish62 said:
Can you explain your first comment? I don't understand it. Thanks.

The TOCs appear to be targeting 75% pre-Covid levels long-term, DfT think this is too optimistic. I could dissect and challenge your comments, but we're already going too OT (sorry Mods!)
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Based on the fact there as been such Dips in Commuting and Travellers before yet it bounces back, the 75% is said to be for this year, but subject to review. Not everyone can or wants to work from home, sure at the moment there are such low numbers but you're outright predicting the future... But yes that is getting Off-Topic.
 
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brad465 said:
Forgive me for being naïve, but is this an official paintjob they're getting eventually or just forum user experimenting?
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I don't know where the image first appeared or where Chiltern006 got theirs from... but I do have another livery in the HS1 dark blue. I don't belive either are official. I might find out more soon.
 
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I don't know where the image first appeared or where Chiltern006 got theirs from... but I do have another livery in the HS1 dark blue. I don't belive either are official. I might find out more soon.
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SE put one in their magazine, with the dark blue livery. where did you get your one from?
 
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I don't know where the image first appeared or where Chiltern006 got theirs from... but I do have another livery in the HS1 dark blue. I don't belive either are official. I might find out more soon.
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A firm (5 Lamps Media) are providing software for the management of these units to Southeastern used it in a LinkedIn post.

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Exciting times as we begin producing our iVT training software for new client Southeastern and their Class 707. | 5 Lamps Media Ltd

Exciting times as we begin producing our iVT training software for new client Southeastern and their Class 707. Our new generation iVT software utilises the latest web technology to deliver 24/7 secure access online on desktop and mobile devices. The app version is available to users offline at...
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Someone emailled me the picture. The one in the SE magazine is a digial mock up of the dark blue livery and there is a decent photoshop on twitter. I personally prefer the white/blue as it fits in with the rest of the fleet.
 
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