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Because there are several issues with the 745s that GA or Stadler would never admit to. Oh and plus the fact they won't fit through Hackney Downs fast line platforms means you will probably never see them on the Stansteds

What are those several issues?
 

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Because there are several issues with the 745s that GA or Stadler would never admit to. Oh and plus the fact they won't fit through Hackney Downs fast line platforms means you will probably never see them on the Stansteds

Platform 3 is the Up Suburban Platform rather than the Up Fast.
 

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Then why haven't Network Rail done it yet?
And the test run used the suburban lines through Hackney, not the fasts.

EMail we have says Stan Express planned to start in Feb2020 (Norwich to London Dec19/Jan20)

(with Ips - Peterboro 09.12.19. Harwich - Camb 09.12.19)

assume that if all goes OK
 

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I see testing continued with another 745 to the Stansted last night. Not sure if 745/1 stuff belongs on here as this thread is titled (Inter city trains) even though lots of posts about airport units.
 

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I see testing continued with another 745 to the Stansted last night. Not sure if 745/1 stuff belongs on here as this thread is titled (Inter city trains) even though lots of posts about airport units.
Please don't encourage the mods to create a fourth thread!

It looks like 745s went through Hackney Downs platforms 1 and 2 OK last night.
 

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Please don't encourage the mods to create a fourth thread!

It looks like 745s went through Hackney Downs platforms 1 and 2 OK last night.
I just cannot get my head around why there is a need for anything other than class 745 & class 755.
 

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I just cannot get my head around why there is a need for anything other than class 745 & class 755.
Yes, it now looks like a commuter fleet of shorter 745s might have entered service quicker than the Bombardier 720s!
 

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Either that or they didn't realise you were talking about threads not trains!
I thought dk1 was talking about trains. The thread titles need something other than two easily-confused numbers in them if we are going to have multiple threads for them. Does anyone know why the Flirts were not given consecutive class numbers like the AT300s?
 

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Continuing from https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-regional-trains.148431/page-151#post-4307809

It looks like the black triangle indicates the wheelchair end of the train on StanEx Flirt 745104
but both halves contain bike spaces (green stripes) - so maybe space for 18 bikes on there, or at least less conflict with large luggage.

makes me think that 745003 has only one bike space with the wheelchair space and first class all on the black triangle end. It seems a strange decision to have fewer bike spaces on the Norwich units but I think strange decisions about bikes is usual for NS!
 

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Continuing from https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-regional-trains.148431/page-151#post-4307809

It looks like the black triangle indicates the wheelchair end of the train on StanEx Flirt 745104but both halves contain bike spaces (green stripes) - so maybe space for 18 bikes on there, or at least less conflict with large luggage.

makes me think that 745003 has only one bike space with the wheelchair space and first class all on the black triangle end. It seems a strange decision to have fewer bike spaces on the Norwich units but I think strange decisions about bikes is usual for NS!
My understanding at a Greater Anglia Bicycle forum about this time last year was that the Stansted Express services will have an official bicycle capacity of 0 - which is what they have now. I'd interpreted that as meaning the units wouldn't be fitted with bike spaces.
 

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My understanding at a Greater Anglia Bicycle forum about this time last year was that the Stansted Express services will have an official bicycle capacity of 0 - which is what they have now. I'd interpreted that as meaning the units wouldn't be fitted with bike spaces.
Well it has green stripes on it and that means bikes in 745/0 and 755. Has anyone a clearer picture of the relevant bit of a 745/1?
 

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Well it has green stripes on it and that means bikes in 745/0 and 755. Has anyone a clearer picture of the relevant bit of a 745/1?
the video is from May- as the stripes are just vinyl, it's possible they were still testing the markings. We'll see when passengers can get on board and check them out! Possibly do have a (flexible) bike space for when they're on the Norwich express.
 

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the video is from May- as the stripes are just vinyl, it's possible they were still testing the markings. We'll see when passengers can get on board and check them out! Possibly do have a (flexible) bike space for when they're on the Norwich express.
I checked the greater anglia website and on the 12 car Stansted express layout it has 6 spots for bikes
 

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I checked the greater anglia website and on the 12 car Stansted express layout it has 6 spots for bikes
So probably 18 bikes. With the 6-bike Norwich services running through to Stansted, that does at least mitigate the pathetic single 3 or 4 bike space on the 10-car Aventras but that is still a big reduction from Cambridge if they cannot use the vestibules.
 

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How many of the 10 of each variant need to be available to run a full timetable?
 

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Wow, so all of them have been delivered...? @dk1 made the same claim for the 755s.
Oh I don't know if they've all been delivered yet..I think I saw on a thread a week or so back that there are only a couple left to deliver.
 
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