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The name is used by a few businesses in Derby, also the Aurora fiction and poetry prize of the East Midlands. So the connections maybe vague but seem to exist.
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Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates
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I didn't know that to be honest.
My suggestion was "Eurus", which is something to do with the east wind.
They do seem very vague connections, but it is what it is I suppose.
YorksLad12
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In my experience in First on LNER and previously... they can't. They would stick them under the table instead. In Standard there was ususually some luggage space if you got a table and two airlines facing the other way on either side but it never was obvious. But suffice it to say that if I travel First with EMR I won't be booking those seats
Killingworth
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Information from East Midlands about the interiors of Class 810s, includes link to a video. Designed in Derby - East Midlands Railway team up with city firm to create new train interiors
- New Intercity Aurora fleet interiors designed by Derby firm
- Boost for local supplier in city
- Partnership builds on city’s proud railway heritage
East Midlands Railways (EMR) has chosen to work with a Derby supplier to create the interiors for its new Aurora fleet.
DGDESIGN, which is based at Friar Gate Studios, provides design services to companies all over the world and has worked with many of the world’s leading rail manufacturers and operators on products ranging from award-winning high-speed trains to innovative automated people movers.
EMR chose the local company to make sure the Aurora fleet offered passengers a calm, comfortable and accessible environment to enjoy their journey on the Midland Main Line when they enter service in 2023.
Rachel Turner, Head of New Trains at East Midlands Railway, said DGDESIGN were the perfect partners to help EMR ensure the Aurora fleet has market-leading interiors that customers will love to relax or work in.
She said: “We are really excited to be working with DGDESIGN on this project and are eager to show our customers what exceptional ideas they have developed, in conjunction with Hitachi Rail. We are sure their combined expertise will mean our passengers will find travelling on our new Intercity fleet is as comfortable, calm and accessible as possible.
“We always try to work with local companies and support business in the regions we serve. We considered lots of companies when choosing our interior partner and it is great to work with one on our doorstep, in a city that has such a proud rail heritage.”
David Gordon, Director and owner of DGDESIGN, said he was delighted that they were selected to support East Midlands Railway in designing and developing its Aurora Fleet.
He said: “Having the opportunity to work with our local rail operator is a rare privilege and brings added excitement and pride, given that we have a more tangible connection to the positive impact that the end product can bring to our community. We are very aligned with EMR’s initiative to champion the regions and to work with local suppliers wherever possible, which brings direct added benefit to the region and showcases its capabilities to a wider national audience.
“I live and work in Derby so I will be using the new Aurora trains for business and leisure trips. It will be very exciting to take my family on the trains when they come into service and show them the train interiors that I helped design.”
EMR's new Intercity fleet will be built by Hitachi Rail in County Durham and financed by Rock Rail East Midlands. Aurora will offer significant advances on the existing fleet, with passengers benefiting from more seats and modern interiors. The trains will also include features that passengers have said they want to see, including air conditioning, free WiFi throughout, plug sockets and better passenger information screens.
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About Hitachi Rail
- East Midlands Railway provides intercity and regional train services across England
- EMR Intercity operates to and from London St Pancras International, providing reliable and frequent services to Leicester, Nottingham, Lincoln, Derby and Sheffield and other towns and communities across the East Midlands.
- EMR Regional provides local train services to towns and communities across England, including; Liverpool, Manchester, Crewe, Stoke-on-Trent, Peterborough, Ely, Grantham and Norwich
- Over the next eight years, East Midlands Railway will deliver over £600 million of improvements for passengers across the network, including brand new bi-mode intercity trains between the East Midlands, the North and London as well as the introduction of faster, modern, refurbished trains across the rest of the network.
- This investment will also see transformed stations, improved ticketing, better accessibility, new and improved timetables and more support for local communities
Hitachi Rail is a fully integrated, global provider of rail solutions across rolling stock, signalling, service & maintenance, digital technology and turnkey solutions. With a presence in 38 countries across six continents and over 12,000 employees, our mission is to contribute to society through the continuous development of superior rail transport solutions. We are proud of our global achievements, from our world famous ‘bullet trains’, to our signalling solutions and turnkey projects, state-of-the-art traffic management and digital solutions. Drawing on the wider Hitachi Group’s market-leading technology and research-and-development capabilities, we strive for industry leading innovations and solutions that can deliver value for customers and sustainable railway systems that benefit wider society. For information about Hitachi Rail, visit www.hitachirail.com.
About Rock Rail
Rock Rail is an independent developer, investor and asset manager of rolling stock and other rail infrastructure. Established in 2014, Rock Rail has transformed the market for rolling stock funding, leading the way in partnering with major institutional investors and in the development of innovative financing solutions for core rail infrastructure.
Rock Rail invests directly and on behalf of institutional investors. As an asset manager it provides a complete range of specialist rail services, managing residual value and ensuring its fleets meet passengers’ and rail partners’ needs over the long-term.
Since 2016 Rock Rail has secured £3 billion of new passenger fleets for operation on 5 UK rail franchises, (Great Northern routes, East Anglia, South Western, East Midlands and West Coast Partnership). Rock Rail was also part of a consortium of equity investors to take a 45% stake in the Intercity Express Programme West, one of the UK’s most significant rail programmes of recent years.
As well as continuing to work on other core fleet opportunities in the UK, Rock Rail has extended its focus to other rail infrastructure sectors including digital signalling, depots and electrification and other rolling stock geographies including Australia, France, Germany and other mainland European markets.
Rock Rail East Midlands was established to finance, own and lease the new Hitachi trains to East Midlands Railway.
For more information, please visit: www.rockrail.com
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Abellio UK is one of Britain’s largest transport operators, providing services for more than a million rail and bus passengers daily in England and Scotland.
It operates five franchises - ScotRail, MerseyRail (jointly with Serco), East Midlands Railway, West Midlands Trains (including London Northwestern Railway) and Greater Anglia. One in five of UK rail passengers travel on an Abellio service.
Abellio also operates on 52 bus routes in London, eight per cent of the market in the capital, and will soon add to its 700-strong fleet with new electric buses.
A subsidiary of the Dutch state railway, Nederlandse Spoorwegen, Abellio UK employs 16,000 colleagues and it is committed to providing simple, reliable and sustainable journeys.
Having entered the UK rail market in 2003, Abellio is investing £3bn in new fleets right across the UK.
edwin_m
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From mention of the wheel well I infer that this and the preceding posts are about the FLIRT, not the 810.
To be fair, BR thought otherwise and provided a "Luggage" sign with an arrow above each such space on the late Mk2s and I think the Mk3s and Mk4s too.
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Good point - and evidence of luggage in lots of less than sensible places proves the point I guess.
supervc-10
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I'm sure I've seen those signs on SWT 159s too, although some of the gaps have bins in them instead.
edwin_m
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On 158s there are equipment boxes recessed in some of the gaps, so you can think there is a space then find it is smaller than expected. Not sure about the SWR fit-out but it would make sense to use these ones for bins.
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I think that's exactly what they do. It's been a while since I've been on a 159, having moved up north, so I may be wrong.
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https://twitter.com/weareEMR/status/1328324206065573889 Cab mock up has been revealed.
supervc-10
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Looks like a Desiro seat on the right hand side of the cab too. Not sure if that's just because it's what they had laying around for the mockup or not!
samuelmorris
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That’s the official second man seat on all 80x units I believe, including the production ones. A ‘here’s what you could have won!’ for the passengers!
Its the second person's seat in all AT300s.
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Shame they're not in the passenger cabins! 
(not that I've ever been on an AT300 of any kind!)
(not that I've ever been on an AT300 of any kind!)
Bletchleyite
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Quite...if they put a Fainsa Sophia there I'd imagine they'd have strikes on their hands! (The Sophia isn't all that different from the E3000, really, the main issue is the base!)
LNW-GW Joint
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Railway PR is running riot.
Trenitalia have some stupid names on their home soil.
Their new regional trains are to be called Jazz (aka Alstom Coradia Meridian), and Rock (from Hitachi).
Czechia has CityElefant for its Škoda class 471 suburban double deck EMUs, not a bad likeness either.
Vienna has its Wiesel dd EMUs, complete with pic of a cuddly weasel on the side.
At least we've got away from fictional Robin Hood and Ivanhoe as emblems of the East Midlands.
But there's Richard III, now confirmed as a long-time resident of Leicester.
And there's Richard Arkwright, for the industrial revolution in Derbyshire and beyond.
That's it, they should have called them Arkwrights..
Trenitalia have some stupid names on their home soil.
Their new regional trains are to be called Jazz (aka Alstom Coradia Meridian), and Rock (from Hitachi).
Czechia has CityElefant for its Škoda class 471 suburban double deck EMUs, not a bad likeness either.
Vienna has its Wiesel dd EMUs, complete with pic of a cuddly weasel on the side.
At least we've got away from fictional Robin Hood and Ivanhoe as emblems of the East Midlands.
But there's Richard III, now confirmed as a long-time resident of Leicester.
And there's Richard Arkwright, for the industrial revolution in Derbyshire and beyond.
That's it, they should have called them Arkwrights.
.norbitonflyer
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That's it, they should have called them Arkwrights.
Granville, f-f-f-fetch yer cloth!
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They're not EMUs... they are push-pull worked by either Taurus or 1144 locos.
Can't do that; the 444s are known as Arkwrights already (from Open All Hours... four..four...four..)That's it, they should have called them Arkwrights.
České Dráhy have animal names for most of their fleet, including CityElefant, RegioNova/RegioMouse, RegioPanter, InterPanter, RegioSpider, and RegioShark.Railway PR is running riot.
Trenitalia have some stupid names on their home soil.
Their new regional trains are to be called Jazz (aka Alstom Coradia Meridian), and Rock (from Hitachi).
Czechia has CityElefant for its Škoda class 471 suburban double deck EMUs, not a bad likeness either.
Vienna has its Wiesel dd EMUs, complete with pic of a cuddly weasel on the side.
At least we've got away from fictional Robin Hood and Ivanhoe as emblems of the East Midlands.
But there's Richard III, now confirmed as a long-time resident of Leicester.
And there's Richard Arkwright, for the industrial revolution in Derbyshire and beyond.
That's it, they should have called them Arkwrights.
All better than 'Aurora', 'Azuma', 'Paragon', or any other daft ones to come, but there we are.
Bletchleyite
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Harks back to Orange mobile phones naming their tariffs after animals. Which I thought was very French, but maybe more Czech!
EMR has released the second video in partnership with D&G Design. I have to say, those interiors are looking rather smart. Although when it comes to FC, nothing beats the true classiness of the ScotRail I7C interior yet. Even the modified versions of it used elsewhere...
Bletchleyite
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That looks like FISA LEANs in Standard...makes the bleating of "can't use those for 125mph" sound rather an excuse now.
Nymanic
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Decent, neutral colour scheme. A little dull (perhaps beige tones are more welcoming than grey?), but still much more tasteful than the original IEP spec. Glad they didn't go overboard with the purple.
Edit: Just noticed that the Standard image is indeed a Class 170. That's worryingly misleading, no? And they've taken the XC option by cramming in extra rows and destroying the window alignment. Not happy with that.
First class is interesting to look at, but those slender seats might be a little firm.
Edit: Just noticed that the Standard image is indeed a Class 170. That's worryingly misleading, no? And they've taken the XC option by cramming in extra rows and destroying the window alignment. Not happy with that.
First class is interesting to look at, but those slender seats might be a little firm.
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The main interior image you see is of a Class 170, which are getting LEANs. I believe the 810s are getting a version of the dreaded Fainsa Sophia though.
Bletchleyite
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Ah yes, so it is. My mistake.
Why are they replacing the seats on the 170s? The Chapman ones in those are fine (apart from lack of legroom, which isn't the fault of the actual seats). It's IEPs which are the issue - if they have the same seats as all the existing fleets then they will be unpleasant.
The Scotrail HST first class is just the GWR interior with new seat covers and carpets!
Nymanic
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At best, it's an editorial oversight and accidental use of a render from the wrong train. Which is somewhat sloppy.
At worst, it's an attempt to mislead the viewer with deliberate use of a less contentious render from the wrong train. Take yer pick.
Hope they don't end up with Sophias. That would be a mistake.
Maybe they are trying to create a consistent product across the three fleets. If the 170s are getting new seats then the 360s will probably get something simular as well.
The 360s have Grammer E3000 seats - which are actually pretty decent and a current model, so if they wanted consistency they could just put them in the 170s.