Classes that came and went without you ever travelling on one?

[DustyBin]

Mods feel free to move this to the history and nostalgia section if you deem it appropriate.

The imminent demise of the 332s got me thinking. They were introduced in 1998 (I believe) and are now in their final days, meaning they came and went within my lifetime and yet I never got to travel on one. There aren’t many classes I can say that about. Has anybody else seen whole classes come and go without ever travelling on one?

The only other examples I can think of are the 141s (just!) and the 460s.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I'd imagine, given how few of them there are, that will be true for many (though not me) of 230s. I've not been on a 141, and I've only been on one Pacer that wasn't a 142, so I've not been on one or the other of 143 or 144, though I'm not sure which as they look very similar.

Don't think I've been on absolutely every class of 1980s EMU either, and those are on their last legs now.

 

[DustyBin]

I'd imagine, given how few of them there are, that will be true for many (though not me) of 230s. I've not been on a 141, and I've only been on one Pacer that wasn't a 142, so I've not been on one or the other of 143 or 144, though I'm not sure which as they look very similar.

Don't think I've been on absolutely every class of 1980s EMU either, and those are on their last legs now.

Sorry I maybe didn’t explain the criteria properly. The class has to have been introduced after you were born, and now be fully withdrawn. So classes still running don’t count.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Sorry I maybe didn’t explain the criteria properly. The class has to have been introduced after you were born, and now be fully withdrawn. So classes still running don’t count.

I was thinking slightly ahead - 143 or 144 (whichever it was) certainly will count within 12 months or so, for example.

I think 141 is the only one that currently does for me.

Edit: Oh, if you count prototypes, 151 - wasn't about for long but it did run in service. Wasn't there also a prototype Class 154 which was a 150 with some 158 features, which again ran in service, or did it? The PEP EMU will work for some but it predates me by a year or so.

 

[DustyBin]

I see where you’re coming from. Yes prototypes are fine if they ran in service. I can add the 151s to my list actually.

 

[Bletchleyite]

154 it seems did run in service, but a bit borderline as it didn't run in service for long:

Class 154 experimental DMU

However if I'm reading it right, it was actually a modification of 150002 which returned to service as 150002, and I may well have been on it in that form - I have certainly been on one or the other of the as-built 3-car 150s.

 

[43096]

Classes 140, 141, 151 and 210* that I can think of for me.

* had the 210 vehicles now in 455s 5912/3 but don’t think that counts.

 

[DustyBin]

If the 360/2s don’t return they’d count for me. I think subclasses should be allowed as long as they were built as subclasses (i.e. not created as a result of midlife changes). Heavy rebuilds and reformations are a grey area. Take the 458s for example (although academic in my case as I travelled on one when first introduced).

 

[Bletchleyite]

If the 360/2s don’t return they’d count for me. I think subclasses should be allowed as long as they were built as subclasses (i.e. not created as a result of midlife changes). Heavy rebuilds and reformations are a grey area. Take the 458s for example (although academic in my case as I travelled on one when first introduced).

Didn't think of 210 - pretty sure I've not been on that.

 

[DustyBin]

Didn't think of 210 - pretty sure I've not been on that.

Pre-dates me that one!

 

[PeterC]

I once helped a friend load her lugguage onto a pacer at Whitby, that is the closest that I have come to travelling on any of those classes.

No doubt there are a few first generation DMU classes that I have missed, I can't say that I ever paid much attention to which class they were. I have only travelled on the sleeper and an HS2 in Scotland so missed out on any class that never ran south of the border.

I am please to say that I did manage one short trip on a 210 and was impressed by the smooth ride, especially as 1st gen DMUs tended to make me travel sick.

 

[WesternLancer]

Regret not having a Peak in service, or a Deltic, or a Western - all of which I could have achieved if I'd had more money and been in the right part of the country in the 70s or v early 80s.

 

[Prestige15]

Class 460 and (soon to be gone) class 332

 

[TheEdge]

I'm really trying to rack my brain on this one. Class 460 is one but I'm not really sure what else might fit. I'm trying to think of post 1991 units that have been scrapped and not many jump to mind.

 

[route101]

The 456 on SWR,Ive not been on one of them, the two car third rail EMU.

 

[Sad Sprinter]

323s-same for me. Plus the 332s and 333s.

 

[Bletchleyite]

323s-same for me. Plus the 332s and 333s.

323s are still going and will be for some time yet, they are leaving WMT but going to Northern to replace ageing 319s.

 

[DustyBin]

I'm really trying to rack my brain on this one. Class 460 is one but I'm not really sure what else might fit. I'm trying to think of post 1991 units that have been scrapped and not many jump to mind.

If you're young you're going to struggle with this one!

 

[TheEdge]

If you're young you're going to struggle with this one!

Thats what I'm struggling with, I've been on the 332 and 360/2s so I can't really think of much else that fits.

 

[RT4038]

Of course, the older you are, the more likely this has happened: Never travelled behind a MetroVick Co-Bo (Class 28), the NBL Bo-Bos (Classes 21/22), numerous diesel shunter types (excl 08), an original Peak (class 44), Clayton Bo-Bo (class 17), the BTH type 1 Bo-Bos (Class 16). There are some other types first delivered in my birth year, which may or may not fall into this category eg Class 15, 20. Probably some types that I have forgotten too!

 

[hexagon789]

Any Pacer...

 

[delt1c]

123,140, 141, 144,151 cant think of any emu’s. Only loco is the 89

 

[norbitonflyer]

Not sure about all these, as there were a lot of new classes coming in around the time I was born, so I dont know which ones were already extant.

Of those which survived long enough to get TOPS classes, I have missed the following (those in bold are still in service)
Locos 01-23, 28, 29, 30, 35, 41-44, 48, 53, 56-60, 66, 70, 71, 74, 88, 89.
Class numbers 41, 43, and 70 have been re-used, I have had haulage on the later Class 43 but not 41 or 70. I had haulage on two Woodhead electrics in 1967, but was too young to know whether they were 76s or 77s. As one was on the Harwich boat train and the other was a stopping service I've assumed one of each.
DMUs 109, 112, 113, 125, 129, 151, 154, 250, 251, 252
EMUs AM1, 316, 325, 370, 385, 424, 445, 446, 457, 505, 720, 769, 801 and all pre-war SR types except 405

Only once on classes 52, 68, 82, 128, 140, 141, 155, 195, 204, 206, 210, 221, 222, 230, 318, 320, 322, 331, 333, 334, 345, 379, 380, 387, 397, 710, 717, 745, 800.

 

[Richard Scott]

Missed 140, 151 and 210 (annoyingly could have had a 210 but took the loco hauled option instead, which in hindsight wasn't a good move) and 460s (but had a few as 458/5). Almost missed the 89 but did get it once after a bit of chasing around.

 

[D365]

I'm really trying to rack my brain on this one. Class 460 is one but I'm not really sure what else might fit. I'm trying to think of post 1991 units that have been scrapped and not many jump to mind.

Same here. Classes 332 and 460 are all that come to mind. Mainly because I've never been to either of the two airports they served.

 

[warwickshire]

Myself 140,151 and also the class 302 emu on the Shoeburyness line. However do remember the old class 47 Network South East loco drags though through Preston taking the old 302s for scrap to Glasgow though.

 

[Iskra]

373’s could be one for a few people. If demand remains suppressed on Eurostar the surviving units could be binned off sooner than anticipated.

 

[Bevan Price]

Steam: BR 72000 (Clan), 77000

Diesel Loco: 10000/01, 10100, 10201-03, 10800; Class 16 (only had some other classes after preservation);
Lion, Falcon, HS4000, DP2. (List excludes shunters)

DMU: Some early prototypes; Class 140, 159, 210; Blue Pullmans.

EMU: Most "Southern" 3rd rail types built since about 1990. Cl. 318 or newer in Scotland.

 

[TheEdge]

Same here. Classes 332 and 460 are all that come to mind. Mainly because I've never been to either of the two airports they served.

I'm going to have to go with 460 and that's it. I used 332s a few times to get to Heathrow.

 

[GlosRail]

I rode on my first 332 in September this year, looks like I won't ever get a second trip.

I only went on the Class 91 about 3 times. Twice in 1990 when they were new, and once about 5 years ago. Never went on a 460 before they were rebuilt, and never went on a APT before there early withdrawal. Not sure I've ever been on a 144, as I think I've only been a Pacer once in the North. The rest of the times have been in South Wales, Bristol or Devon.