AgreedI would expect schools to be among the last things to re-start.
AgreedI would expect schools to be among the last things to re-start.
In secondary schools the numbers are very low, with under half a dozen students in schools attended by many hundreds normally....What it is like?...
The situation was confused as GCSE and A level students leave in May anyway, hence the matter of it possibly being their last day of the year.
Most schools I know of have no mornthan
However teachers and those I know with children outside of these years have been told not to rule out a possible return after Spring Bank holiday.
Most schools I know of have planned a 4-6 week rota at the absolute maximum until we have clearer guidance.The situation was confused as GCSE and A level students leave in May anyway, hence the matter of it possibly being their last day of the year.
However teachers and those I know with children outside of these years have been told not to rule out a possible return after Spring Bank holiday.
Unless they are on the database for the secondary school, then we are responsible for that child’s education. The Y6s MIGHT never come back to primary, but whilst they’re on our books they’ll continue to be able to come into school if one of their parents is a key worker.@Bayum I thought from the outset that Y6 should go to their allocated secondary school, and what you say confirms my suspicion that secondary schools have ample spare capacity while primary schools struggle. admittedly it may not be possible to have them there right now, but there should be plans being made right now to do this after Easter at the latest.
At at least one secondary near me that I know of, there are loads of volunteers who are simply told not to come in as they are not needed. I can think of no reason not to do this; several Y6s have already been attending extracurricular activities there anyway.
This would relieve pressure on primary schools as well as potentialy making the transition easier.
Our local primary school has roughly 5% of its pupils still attending. Naturally, primary age kids can't be left at home while their parents are at work.In secondary schools the numbers are very low, with under half a dozen students in schools attended by many hundreds normally.
Yes but my suggestion is that should be changed under these exceptional circumstances.Unless they are on the database for the secondary school, then we are responsible for that child’s education. The Y6s MIGHT never come back to primary, but whilst they’re on our books they’ll continue to be able to come into school if one of their parents is a key worker.
Even if there’s still a chance we might go back before September?Yes but my suggestion is that should be changed under these exceptional circumstances.
I think that chance is slim. Some people, like yourself and myself, are shielding for 12 weeks, which takes them and us into June. I can't see things changing much for schools.Even if there’s still a chance we might go back before September?
In my area, Y6 kids would be spending increasingly more time at their high school by the end of the summer term, as a part of their transition scheme.Even if there’s still a chance we might go back before September?
I never said primary schools are struggling. We have the volunteers and we have the children.@Bayum I thought from the outset that Y6 should go to their allocated secondary school, and what you say confirms my suspicion that secondary schools have ample spare capacity while primary schools struggle. admittedly it may not be possible to have them there right now, but there should be plans being made right now to do this after Easter at the latest.
At at least one secondary near me that I know of, there are loads of volunteers who are simply told not to come in as they are not needed. I can think of no reason not to do this; several Y6s have already been attending extracurricular activities there anyway.
This would relieve pressure on primary schools as well as potentialy making the transition easier.
Yeah, I don’t know what happens in various parts of the country. In North Yorkshire we were doing something similar, but it was a mess. Who is responsible for the children at various points? We had parents and children picking and choosing which days they wanted to be at secondary and back at primary. We’ve put a stop to it and most of the head teachers of our secondaries we are affiliated with have put a stop to it as well. It wasn’t productive or conducive and just caused problems.In my area, Y6 kids would be spending increasingly more time at their high school by the end of the summer term, as a part of their transition scheme.
I think it is slim too, but to transfer the data through SIMS etc would require work which would be ongoing as part of the transition information in July. For the time being, it’s easier and simpler for the children to be under the primary school where we know who the vulnerable children are and who the key workers are. That’s before you get into the discussions needed to be had for those children whom have safeguarding or child protection folders which need discussing and handing over to the secondary safeguarding officers.I think that chance is slim. Some people, like yourself and myself, are shielding for 12 weeks, which takes them and us into June. I can't see things changing much for schools.
My point was that if cover does become a problem in a Primary, and it clearly isn't in a Secondary, then my suggestion could help....But who covers? Who is happy to cover, who is unwilling to because of the potential for them to become poorly? Don’t forget, we’ve been tasked with looking after children, some of whom will have parents in clinical settings looking after patients with coronavirus disease.....
I think the problem is that many secondary-aged children are able to take care of themselves at home rather than primary children who do need looking after. This is where I think the problem has come/will come. I’m not certain how much help sending some Y6 children to secondary would be if I’m brutally honest. There’s a much smaller proportion of children going into school at the moment, so the proportion of Y6 children in school will fall as well.OK glad to hear you aren't struggling but I have heard that on average it's more likely to be a challenge for a Primary than a Secondary right now; also you did say:
My point was that if cover does become a problem in a Primary, and it clearly isn't in a Secondary, then my suggestion could help.
The summer will be an interesting time. Schools might even need to stay open.I never said primary schools are struggling. We have the volunteers and we have the children.
Yeah, I don’t know what happens in various parts of the country. In North Yorkshire we were doing something similar, but it was a mess. Who is responsible for the children at various points? We had parents and children picking and choosing which days they wanted to be at secondary and back at primary. We’ve put a stop to it and most of the head teachers of our secondaries we are affiliated with have put a stop to it as well. It wasn’t productive or conducive and just caused problems.
I think it is slim too, but to transfer the data through SIMS etc would require work which would be ongoing as part of the transition information in July. For the time being, it’s easier and simpler for the children to be under the primary school where we know who the vulnerable children are and who the key workers are. That’s before you get into the discussions needed to be had for those children whom have safeguarding or child protection folders which need discussing and handing over to the secondary safeguarding officers.
Why might theyThe summer will be an interesting time. Schools might even need to stay open.
Well if key workers need to work, the children need to be somewhere.Why might they
I was never directly involved with organising Year 6 transition (just working in schools at the time), but my understanding is that in my neck of the woods, it's organised between headteachers of primary and secondary schools, possibly on a county-wide level. Parents certainly don't get a look-in at all, beyond choosing which school they'll be going to.Yeah, I don’t know what happens in various parts of the country. In North Yorkshire we were doing something similar, but it was a mess. Who is responsible for the children at various points? We had parents and children picking and choosing which days they wanted to be at secondary and back at primary. We’ve put a stop to it and most of the head teachers of our secondaries we are affiliated with have put a stop to it as well. It wasn’t productive or conducive and just caused problems.
I've not heard anything about that through our local schools. (Though I may have been distracted by statements that free-school-meal provisions won't of course apply over the Easter holiday.) Do you have any sources you could refer me to?I mean the schools will be taking in children over Easter holidays. They don't usually do this.
That’s how it ‘should’ be happening... But we had parents and children leaving for the final three weeks of the summer term to go to secondary, but picking and choosing - well, on this day I want them at primary because I’m working late, this day the primary Y6 class is having a trip to Lightwater Valley so I don’t want them to miss that, “I don’t want to be in the class performance so I don’t want to go to primary on these dates”. It was ridiculous. The safeguarding going on between schools for this was immense. As I say, this has since been put to an end in my neck of the woods.I was never directly involved with organising Year 6 transition (just working in schools at the time), but my understanding is that in my neck of the woods, it's organised between headteachers of primary and secondary schools, possibly on a county-wide level. Parents certainly don't get a look-in at all, beyond choosing which school they'll be going to.
I've not heard anything about that through our local schools. (Though I may have been distracted by statements that free-school-meal provisions won't of course apply over the Easter holiday.) Do you have any sources you could refer me to?
Schools have absolutely been ‘firmly suggested’ they should stay open over the Easter holidays. We’ve had to rota staff and ensure they’ve had their 14 days that they would have had over the Easter period factored in as ‘holiday’. So they’re either in school working with vulnerable and key worker children, working from home or ‘on holiday’.I've not heard anything about that through our local schools. (Though I may have been distracted by statements that free-school-meal provisions won't of course apply over the Easter holiday.) Do you have any sources you could refer me to?
This is definitely something we have been considering a possibility. We’ve even thought that we might be told to be open to all children and for teaching to resume in this time.The summer will be an interesting time. Schools might even need to stay open.
Thanks for the inside word. I haven't spoken directly with our local school staff for the past week, for obvious reasons, so I'm out of date with what the current gossip is for this side of the border. Those on FSM provision (currently being provided with a food bag to be collected each day) just o as far as reception, pick up what's waiting for them, and head home, with no human contact. Not very sociable, but very suitable social distancing.Schools have absolutely been ‘firmly suggested’ they should stay open over the Easter holidays. We’ve had to rota staff and ensure they’ve had their 14 days that they would have had over the Easter period factored in as ‘holiday’. So they’re either in school working with vulnerable and key worker children, working from home or ‘on holiday’.
One of ours will be starting Primary School in September... but in all likelihood may not attend his nursery again before then. Reception class teachers may have a bit more challenge this year with kids who may have been out of education for many months.
Perhaps I'm confusing it with the free school meals being provided. It was just something I'd heard so it could have been that. Although Bayum suggests otherwise.I was never directly involved with organising Year 6 transition (just working in schools at the time), but my understanding is that in my neck of the woods, it's organised between headteachers of primary and secondary schools, possibly on a county-wide level. Parents certainly don't get a look-in at all, beyond choosing which school they'll be going to.
I've not heard anything about that through our local schools. (Though I may have been distracted by statements that free-school-meal provisions won't of course apply over the Easter holiday.) Do you have any sources you could refer me to?
They're an excellent pair of programs; our eldest (who's finishing her first year at school) took a liking to them, and her brother (who's due to start part time next year) caught the bug and loves them too.However we are doing some things to ensure that they are learning some things, but in a way which is fun and plenty of watching of Alphablocks and Numberblocks.
One of ours is in a similar situation, fortunately they've in the school a fair account due to an older sibling which will make the transition a bit easier.
However we are doing some things to ensure that they are learning some things, but in a way which is fun and plenty of watching of Alphablocks and Numberblocks.