Crewe Delays 16 Sep

[Bald Rick]

There certainly was a 1h45m London-Manchester journey time objective under PUG2 and London-Glasgow ambition was 4h12m. ( See this link to download a Parliamentary report from 2010:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiwwdzDvPbrAhVYURUIHS80CRMQFjAKegQIBRAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fresearchbriefings.files.parliament.uk%2Fdocuments%2FSN00364%2FSN00364.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2V-GNJOLVbWIZMsA6cPMZI

The Wikipedia page suggests a 1h London-Birmingham journey time although I‘m struggling to find a source, although it does ring a bell and sound realistic alongside the Manchester figure.

I’m sorry but those times are wrong. The London - Manchester headline time was 1h52/3 via Crewe only. The times quoted in that document are the base running times only and exclude engineering and performance allowances. If you add the (typical) 7 minutes of those to the London Manchester time quoted, you get 1h53. Similarly add the 12 mins engineering allowance on a Euston Glasgow and you’re pretty close to the current Glasgow time. (The proposed stopping pattern was different IIRC).

At some point I will go and dig out the WCRM functional specification, which has all of this in it.

Anyway back on topic - the issue is largely fixed.

 

[jfollows]

Anyway back on topic - the issue is largely fixed.

Thank you for the update, all sorts of progress by 10:30 it would appear.

 

[Sweetjesus]

I plan to travel to Manchester from Birmingham today.

I don't want to risk being in an over-crowded train if I go via Stoke-On-Trent, and it appears NRE is telling there is a ticket acceptable between Sheffield and Manchester. Does that include the travel from Birmingham to Sheffield?

 

[jfollows]

Even better, 1A11 has just passed through Adswood Road without needing to stop and get permission first.

 

[Ianno87]

I plan to travel to Manchester from Birmingham today.

I don't want to risk being in an over-crowded train if I go via Stoke-On-Trent, and it appears NRE is telling there is a ticket acceptable between Sheffield and Manchester. Does that include the travel from Birmingham to Sheffield?

That is one heck of the long way around!

 

[jfollows]

I plan to travel to Manchester from Birmingham today.

I don't want to risk being in an over-crowded train if I go via Stoke-On-Trent, and it appears NRE is telling there is a ticket acceptable between Sheffield and Manchester. Does that include the travel from Birmingham to Sheffield?

You may find that, now that trains appear to be running normally again between Macclesfield and Stockport, that the Birmingham-Stoke services get extended to Manchester.

However, not yet at least, 1M30 09:15 Reading to Stoke has just turned round in platform 2 at Stoke as booked as 1O16 12:08 to Bournemouth.

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I plan to travel to Manchester from Birmingham today.

I don't want to risk being in an over-crowded train if I go via Stoke-On-Trent, and it appears NRE is telling there is a ticket acceptable between Sheffield and Manchester. Does that include the travel from Birmingham to Sheffield?

I read National Rail Enquiries as saying that it is:

For social distancing purposes, customers travelling long distance should consider travelling via other routes, for example via Sheffield or Warrington to / from Manchester.

 

[Sweetjesus]

You may find that, now that trains appear to be running normally again between Macclesfield and Stockport, that the Birmingham-Stoke services get extended to Manchester.

However, not yet at least, 1M30 09:15 Reading to Stoke has just turned round in platform 2 at Stoke as booked as 1O16 12:08 to Bournemouth.

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I read National Rail Enquiries as saying that it is:

I will be keeping a close eye on the situation, thanks for letting me know.

I've never been in a situation of this severity, I'm not sure how ticket acceptance works, I mean if they say Sheffield to Manchester are accepted, surely there is an implication that travel to Sheffield from elsewhere are also accepted because I'm struggling to think of an example where a passenger requiring to travel over the affected section to Manchester would have a ticket that are valid via an alternative route up to Sheffield but not to Manchester from Sheffield.

That is one heck of the long way around!

Admittedly I've already took the route via Warrington on Friday, so it would be nice to travel via Sheffield if possible.

 

[sprinterguy]

That is one heck of the long way around!

I occasionally find it quite a pleasant trip if I'm in no rush to get back to Macclesfield from work in Birmingham: A decent bit of HST travel from Birmingham to Sheffield, few pints in The Sheffield Tap, then catch the sunset over the Hope Valley on the quick trip across to Stockport.

Anyway back on topic - the issue is largely fixed.

That's excellent news, my next trip south to Birmingham on Tuesday should go smoothly then. Though admittedly it was still plain sailing for me with a change at Stoke in both directions on Friday.

 

[James101]

Good news that services are reasonably back to normal - the road transport arranged for the planned maintenance as per last weekend is still running, so coaches are duplicating trains between Stafford & Macclesfield without need.

Blythe Bridge to Crewe & Stoke to Manchester (Northern stopper) are the only genuinely missing train services - which are being covered by road transport.