CrossCountry HST Diagrams

[Steddenm]

There was an ECS move through Teignmouth today about 1.30ish.

 

[yorkie]

Does anyone have any idea of the likely HST diagrams for the weekend of 30 September - 2 October? I am looking at going south on Friday and back north on Sunday.

Many thanks

 

[43055]

Does anyone have any idea of the likely HST diagrams for the weekend of 30 September - 2 October? I am looking at going south on Friday and back north on Sunday.

Many thanks

From RTT Friday looks to be the usual two diagrams:

0611 Leeds - Plymouth
0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth

1227 Plymouth - Edinburgh
1527 Plymouth - Leeds

Sunday looks like just one diagram due to Engineering works:

0811 Leeds - Plymouth

1427 Plymouth - Leeds

 

[GS250]

From RTT Friday looks to be the usual two diagrams:

0611 Leeds - Plymouth
0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth

1227 Plymouth - Edinburgh
1527 Plymouth - Leeds

Sunday looks like just one diagram due to Engineering works:

0811 Leeds - Plymouth

1427 Plymouth - Leeds

Thankyou for this.

I think I'm going to have to treat myself to that Plymouth-Edinburgh turn before it inevitably goes to another form of traction.

 

[Apedlar12]

Hi, would anyone happen to know what the diagrams are expected to be for the HSTs between Sunday 18th and Friday 23rd September as I know this is when CrossCountry should be diverting via Westbury due to engineering works in the Bristol area?

Thanks.

 

[43055]

Hi, would anyone happen to know what the diagrams are expected to be for the HSTs between Sunday 18th and Friday 23rd September as I know this is when CrossCountry should be diverting via Westbury due to engineering works in the Bristol area?

Thanks.

Possibly the following:
Friday 16th:
Additional HST on 1E63 1627 Plymouth - Leeds to get 2 sets at NL

Saturday 17th: Strike

Sunday 18th:
1V48 0811 Leeds - Bristol
1M45 1300 Bristol - Birmingham
1V57 1442 Birmingham - Bristol
1S55 1631 Bristol - Leeds

1S33 0918 Leeds - Newcastle
1V58 1140 Newcastle - Plymouth

Monday 19th - Friday 23rd:
1V44 0611 Leeds - Plymouth
1S55 1327 Plymouth - Edinburgh

1E63 1427 Plymouth - Leeds

1V50 0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth
1E73 1627 Plymouth - Leeds (Friday only)

Seems to be weekend works between Newcastle and Edinburgh as well hence 2 sets in Leeds on Friday and Saturday night.

 

[OrangeJuice]

Are the diagrams for this weekend known, Saturday 3rd and Sunday 4th?

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

Are the diagrams for this weekend known, Saturday 3rd and Sunday 4th?

So sorry, just seen this message. Today it was:

06:06 Edinburgh - Plymouth 15:49
16:27 Plymouth - Leeds 22:31

12:27 Plymouth - Edinburgh 22:15

Tomorrow is probably:
08:11 Leeds - Plymouth 13:57
14:27 Plymouth - Leeds 20:47

12:27 Plymouth - Edinburgh 22:10 (ish)

 

[Apedlar12]

Today is:

1S51 12:27 PLY EDB

1V48 08:07 LDS PLY
1S55 14:27 PLY LDS

1V60 10:05 EDB PLY

 

[Martin_1981]

Is it likely that XC will once again restrict HST use to Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays only, possibly from next week, now that the summer peak is over? It wouldn't surprise me.

 

[lammergeier]

Is it likely that XC will once again restrict HST use to Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays only, possibly from next week, now that the summer peak is over? It wouldn't surprise me.

No plans for this as far as I am aware. In fact I believe the plan is to get a 3rd daily diagram out once the rakes have been through their current overhaul which should be early next year.

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

No plans for this as far as I am aware. In fact I believe the plan is to get a 3rd daily diagram out once the rakes have been through their current overhaul which should be early next year.

The 3rd diagram would have to operate from Plymouth to somewhere and back to Plymouth or Edinburgh to somewhere and back to Edinburgh or Leeds to somewhere and back to Leeds.

As HST's operated to Manchester quite a few times in 2018, if the 17:05 Manchester - Bristol was replaced by an 18:05 Manchester - Plymouth like pre-covid then I can't see a reason why the 11:53 from Plymouth to Manchester 16:59 can't run the 18:05 back to Plymouth.

Remember during 2020 that the 11:53 from Plymouth to Birmingham New Street 15:28 became the 16:42 back to Plymouth.

 

[Martin_1981]

No plans for this as far as I am aware. In fact I believe the plan is to get a 3rd daily diagram out once the rakes have been through their current overhaul which should be early next year.

I didn't realise the rakes were being overhauled. I thought the XC HST'S were being stood down from August 2023 and replaced by ex Avanti Voyagers or is that still no more than hearsay?

 

[lammergeier]

I didn't realise the rakes were being overhauled. I thought the XC HST'S were being stood down from August 2023 and replaced by ex Avanti Voyagers or is that still no more than hearsay?

Hearsay for now. Nobody knows (publicly at least) what is happening. The vehicles are going to Doncaster, I think the first rake is already there.

 

[Mugby]

The 1627 HST from Plymouth to Leeds was terminated at Birmingham this evening (Sat.) No guard available for the 2003 BHM - Leeds leg.

Doesn't the set off this form the first departure from Leeds on Sunday morning at 0811 ? Will it run as ECS from BHM-LDS ?

 

[louis97]

Doesn't the set off this form the first departure from Leeds on Sunday morning at 0811 ? Will it run as ECS from BHM-LDS ?

Yes it ran empty to Leeds.

 

[yorksrob]

From RTT Friday looks to be the usual two diagrams:

0611 Leeds - Plymouth
0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth

1227 Plymouth - Edinburgh
1527 Plymouth - Leeds

Sunday looks like just one diagram due to Engineering works:

0811 Leeds - Plymouth

1427 Plymouth - Leeds

I need to travel to Bristol one weekend, but looking at these woeful diagrams, I may end up travelling via London !

 

[class 9]

This Sunday, HST ecs, Neville Hill to Sheffield, via Turners Lane and Broughton Lane Jct.

Realtime Trains | 5S36 0748 Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D to Sheffield | 25/09/2022

Real-time train running information for 5S36 0748 departure from Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D to Sheffield on 25/09/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[louis97]

As HST's operated to Manchester quite a few times in 2018, if the 17:05 Manchester - Bristol was replaced by an 18:05 Manchester - Plymouth like pre-covid then I can't see a reason why the 11:53 from Plymouth to Manchester 16:59 can't run the 18:05 back to Plymouth.

None were actually planned to though, it was all in response to on the day disruption. With the current situation with HST traction knowledge at Birmingham and the fact Manchester don't sign them, this pretty much rules out any booked work.

 

[Cowley]

Afternoon everyone.

Will these still be more or less the same towards the end of October?

 

[greyman42]

On 24/09/22 the 1638 Newcastle to Plymouth was a HST which was unusual.

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

On 24/09/22 the 1638 Newcastle to Plymouth was a HST which was unusual.

I know why - there was service disruption between Bristol Temple Meads and Bristol Parkway.

The 06:11 from Leeds Plymouth terminated at Bristol Parkway and ran the 10:44 to Newcastle. It then ran the 16:38 Newcastle to Plymouth service as far as Leeds where an 8-coach Voyager (which ran the 12:27 from Plymouth) took over.

The HST that would have run the 12:27 was due to terminate at Leeds anyway .

 

[Jrocks]

On 24/09/22 the 1638 Newcastle to Plymouth was a HST which was unusual.

This was in response to an issue in the Bristol area earlier that day which caused a HST to spin at BPW to form a service back north. The HST only worked the 1638 Newcastle to Plymouth as far as Leeds.

 

[43055]

Afternoon everyone.

Will these still be more or less the same towards the end of October?

Sunday 30th has engineering works between Derby and Birmingham splitting the NE-SW route in two.

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

Given the HST railtour this Tuesday, won't a Plymouth to Leeds service tomorrow have to be formed of an HST so that the set is there?

 

[43096]

Sunday 30th has engineering works between Derby and Birmingham splitting the NE-SW route in two.

Let me guess, route knowledge via Leicester has been allowed to lapse?

 

[Apedlar12]

Given the HST railtour this Tuesday, won't a Plymouth to Leeds service tomorrow have to be formed of an HST so that the set is there?

You would have thought so, both sets that were at Neville Hill this morning have ended up in Laira tonight so they will definitely need at least one up there tomorrow night...

 

[Mugby]

The 1627 Plymouth to Leeds HST on Saturday (24th) actually completed it's entire journey for the fist time in 3 weeks.
It was a poor run throughout though, with arrival in Leeds being 31mins late.

 

[lammergeier]

Let me guess, route knowledge via Leicester has been allowed to lapse?

Plenty of drivers still sign it. Some may have lapsed but not in significant numbers.

 

[43096]

Plenty of drivers still sign it. Some may have lapsed but not in significant numbers.

So what’s the excuse for terminating at Derby from the north on the date in question? The work appears to be between Derby and Tamworth.