Various flavours of the Thales CBTC system are used on the sub-surface lines, the Northern and the Jubilee lines apart from Crossrail. The basic concept is the same even if the implementation varies between the different lines so these would all be candidates over the next ten or fifteen years for a driverless system developed from the auto-reverse function to be used on Crossrail.
De-training invoves humans, so there is always going to be some element of non-digital task involved.
Maybe but how many platform staff will have to be on hand to ensure the train is devoid of passengers before it can leave though?
I don’t know how much this applies but I know that if a tube driver over-carries after de-training they have to get back into a platform asap because the train isn’t technically in service so a class 9 in Paddington would be a class 5 in the siding so they would want to make sure it was empty first
Brixton and Walthamstow do have reversers via the sidings when more services need to use these stations than usual (eg an incident or operational problems.) This is besides the normal early/late evening trains which may be timetabled for stabling beyond the station areas.
The driver will be walking through the train while it is travelling to and from the sidings- passengers (people) onboard the train could cause a risk to their safety.
I'm probably being naive, but:
In that case, there would presumably be no need for a driver at all. I'm not sure the network is quite ready for totally unmanned trains that might have passengers on board breaking down in the middle of Paddington throat!
You'd presumably need 2 platforms for this, as otherwise you would need to ensure that you never had 2 terminating trains in a row. Given the cost of building underground platforms this seems like a much more cost effective solution.
I've heard this one before and find it extraordinary. How are passengers in a reversing train a risk to safety when for all the rest of the time when in service they are not?
Interesting video. Which station is it that has platforms on a curve (albeit a gentle curve visually exacerbated by the long lens used)?
I suspect the ease of having consistent platforming at Paddington overrides the small time benefit you could gain. The Picc platforms at Kings Cross get chaotic enough when a service is reversed there, while there's going to be more space at Paddington, there's also a lot more train to sort out.
Frustrating as it may be, the London Reconnections article linked above gives good and well explained reasons why there isn't any news on an opening date, that being no final decision appears to have been taken and there are many different things to balance in reaching that decision.
Zorro moves for Valence Road are no longer in the equation and its partially because passengers can be detrained/transferred at Whitechapel instead.
LOL! XR hasn't even got authorisation from ORR yet and even when they get that it'll take several weeks to swing things into action. XR were having to redo elements of Trial Ops as its evac systems were not to the standards the LFB required.
I can't see how, if the driver remains in the leading cab until the train has stopped in the sidings, and only then walks the length of the train to the other end before it starts back to Paddington, if can save any time at all. Surely the whole point is that , having initiated the procedure at Paddington, the driver doesn't need to stay in the cab since it's not under their control and they can walk to the other end ready to resume control.
Yes there does seem to be a conflict here.
There is no loop at Battersea. The Battersea extension connects directly to the loop at Kennington though
One illusion about auto reversing at Westbourne Park is that trains will immediately commence their journeys eastward. They wont. In fact they'll be stacked for their next duties as the sidings hold three trains. There'll obviously be time for cleaning teams to do their work.
Maybe the driver enters the rear cab during detainment at paddington and then activates the autoreverse procedure from there
I think the Zorro moves are for when engineering work has closed one track and the other is being used 2-way. They're called Zorro after the Z-shape of a train double-reversing in order to continue in the same direction on a different track, i.e. not terminating.
Do people like the striped light on the roof of the corridor? I can't help thinking a suitable lens on top of the lights could have sent less light straight up and more light out at an angle, creating a perfectly uniform lit ceiling. Or is it more arty to have stripes of light?
