I thought they had a unit based at Abbey Wood, surely that has operated into the tunnels on test runs, presumably using the new signalling?
That's the bit with no transitions between the CBTC signalling and other systems...
I thought they had a unit based at Abbey Wood, surely that has operated into the tunnels on test runs, presumably using the new signalling?
That's the bit with no transitions between the CBTC signalling and other systems...
A train running between abbey wood and paddington doesnt nessescarily mean there is a signalling system in the core in a functional/ reliable enough state to provide an passenger operational service. And for depot moves there is interaction with the gwml.But it's only the completely new section (Abbey Wood to Paddington low level) which was due to open in December anyway, which has no interaction with existing lines
Man, I work in the Oil and Gas Industry, on multi-billion dollar projects with investors from Governments, Financial Institutions, and many Engineering and Construction Companies all putting money into projects from Offshore Oil and Gas production platforms, Pipelines, Treatment plants and Cryogenic Facilities and Oil Refineries, Tankers must be built to ship the products around the world. There are projects like Crossrail that take 7- 10 years from initial design to commissioning each and every part of the project and needless to say, safety, safety, safety is paramount during all parts of the project from construction to completion and operation of all systems.
Investors in large infrastructure programmes such as Crossrail and other public and private projects such a I work in want their money back. They want it on time and in full. The government want to gets it's income from Crossrail. Not in part but in full/ The taxpayer who give their money to the Government whether they like it or not, want their money back in full.
Crossrail and many other recent rail projects have been both late and over budget. Where are the penalty clauses? What recompense are the financial institutions and governments (and therefore the taxpayer) going to get for the delays? I tell you this, in my line of work, any delay means heads will roll. It should well be the case with Crossrail and this latest news.
Are they hoping to just all come back 3 months before September 2019 and pick up at speed where they left off?
The sycophantic 'Yes' men & women. The cancer at the heart of many a project and organisation.Being late isn't necessarily a problem, but the poor and excessively late communication around it is just plain dishonest. I was involved with Crossrail in 2017 and we all knew December 2018 was impossible back then already (this was fact not speculation) - it pretty much came up in every discussion around the office, but we weren't allowed to acknowledge or plan around the delay we all knew was going to happen. This dishonesty forced down from the top caused wasteful expenditure (so many ops staff have been employed and now have to just sit around), corners to be cut (more corners than you'd imagine!) and endless amounts of stress to deliver the undeliverable. In the end, everyone was just looking for whoever would blink first - they would be blamed for all the delays and everyone else would just be the "unfortunate victims" of the delay. Honestly, when the sub-station exploded last year, I was hoping that someone would come to their senses and be upfront about what we knew about, just to take the stupid pressure off, but instead, they kept reassuring everyone that it would open "on time".
My fear is that this happened so late that corners were cut to make the original deadline - I doubt that decisions made to just deliver on time would now be revised in line with having some additional time and money to do things properly.
This was by far the worst project I have ever been involved with and it's all down to poor senior management. The manager I dealt with had no prior experience of railways, nor of delivering a large infrastructure project and he surrounded himself with a team who only told him what he wanted to hear.
Then again a boss surrounded mostly by enemies might well achieve even less in a given time, considering the hours that will probably be wasted on arguing and point scoring routinesThe sycophantic 'Yes' men & women. The cancer at the heart of many a project and organisation.
It's probably to be expected that works will be reprioritised in light of the change of delivery date; to some extent, works in some locations can probably be pushed back now that there's a bit of breathing room. I'm still unclear on what the actual timetable for delivery now is, beyond "something will open in the autumn".
Crossrail will open in 2020, between Easter and May, not in 2019.
I was correct when I posted on 3 July that it would not open December 2018 (something I learnt in December 2017), multiple sources.
But anybody can post on here saying they have sources. Who are yours? Otherwise we cannot say if you are well connected or just making up lucky guesses!I was correct when I posted on 3 July that it would not open December 2018 (something I learnt in December 2017), multiple sources.
I was correct when I posted on 3 July that it would not open December 2018 (something I learnt in December 2017), multiple sources.
Why should I?If you are so desperate to show you have much more knowledge than anyone, one wonders why you didn't post it in December 2017.
Why should I?
I will not give away my sources, but lets give you some help!
Do some maths on the works still programmed, where work actually is at on some core stations (and how long it was proposed to get from there to ready to open when this information was public), the need for Xmas possessions in 2018 AND 2019 to get the railway ready, read about the change of director of Crossrail & why; go look at some of these sites and where they are construction wise (ignoring the few that are visually nearly there).
Think of the politics, change of director, opportunity to announce further delay following his review of where Crossrail is at. The £350 million given to tide TfL over etc, the signs are there in the public domain if you look & think about it.
Not very convincing.
It might be 2020 by the time we see full service on all branches, depending on what happens with the core. It seems unlikely that a delay of nine months would be announced if there was a serious chance of breaching a second deadline.
Ah, so in other words you're pulling the information entirely from your own bottom.
It's always possible that opening will be delayed further. Nothing substantive appears to have (publicly) happened since the delay was announced that suggests the planned opening date will slip further. You might have better information, of course – if you do, then I'd suggest that being a little less conspiratorial, vague and defensive might be better way to get your point across.
Do some maths on the works still programmed, where work actually is at on some core stations (and how long it was proposed to get from there to ready to open when this information was public), the need for Xmas possessions in 2018 AND 2019 to get the railway ready
go look at some of these sites and where they are construction wise (ignoring the few that are visually nearly there).
There are lots of paths in RTT for testing from 1 December onwards, are these going to be used?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/PAA/2018/12/01/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
There are ways of dealing with this problem in a friendly manner. 'Unfortunately I can't disclose who these sources are but they have assured me that etc. etc.' is better than 'I was right last time. Why should I have to tell you?'Why should I?