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Crossrail - operating discussion and opening day 24th May
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swt_passenger
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I think it was always intended mainly as a relief for the Central Line. I don’t recall any formal suggestions to go via the Euston Rd, although it was possibly a very early proposal that was overtaken by the time the route was settled.
They were on the same train as us from Woolwich Arsenal to Abbey Wood to connect with the first EL departure from there (I think the Premier Inn Woolwich Arsenal must have been full last night)
Funny how we were told on arrival at Abbey Wood to join the end of the queue and as a result could not travel on the first train, yet his crowd somehow managed it
That’s dedication!
I must admit the idea of queuing up at 0630 in the rain appealed like a hole in the head
. However I’m certainly looking forward to making a few journeys through the core later this week.
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TFL paid for much of it and run it though, so I guess it is part of London transport, but not technically a 'London underground line'.
However, to a layman, it is a line that goes underground through central London, so I fully expect it to be included in the 'tube' vernacular in due course when people refer to getting it.
On the tunneled stations like TCR it seems redundant to include the platform letter in the announcements ("the next train at platform A is...") when the announcement is only played on that platform and there are relatively few signs confirming which platform you are on.
On the stations with an island platform I can understand it, but it really ought to be possible to strip the announcements of superfluous information.
On the stations with an island platform I can understand it, but it really ought to be possible to strip the announcements of superfluous information.
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Exactly. Just because something runs near to something else doesn't mean that through running is desirable (or even technically plausible!).
I rode it from 10:30 - 13:00 and was surprised how busy it was but many appeared to there to look at a new line. It will be interested to see how full it is in a couple of weeks. I must see what the peak is like tomorrow morning.
I was generally very impressed - the stations are certainly impressive. Fifty years after Paris we hace our own RER. There is a quite a lot of walking in places - I suppose that will always be the case with a new line. The link to the Northern Line at Liverpool St is certainly very long and sometimes you have to go up then down. The interchange at Farringdon is poor - it would have been nice to have a mezzanine under the Thameslink / LUL platforms but I suppose that there is simply not enough space. As it is you seem to be directed to go through two sets of barriers - presumably it will be like the old interchange between the sub-surface & tube lines at Kings X / St Pancras and the gates will return single use tickets. The alternative is to walk along the Northbound Thameslink platform. Overall though a big thumbs up from me.
I was generally very impressed - the stations are certainly impressive. Fifty years after Paris we hace our own RER. There is a quite a lot of walking in places - I suppose that will always be the case with a new line. The link to the Northern Line at Liverpool St is certainly very long and sometimes you have to go up then down. The interchange at Farringdon is poor - it would have been nice to have a mezzanine under the Thameslink / LUL platforms but I suppose that there is simply not enough space. As it is you seem to be directed to go through two sets of barriers - presumably it will be like the old interchange between the sub-surface & tube lines at Kings X / St Pancras and the gates will return single use tickets. The alternative is to walk along the Northbound Thameslink platform. Overall though a big thumbs up from me.
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Would expect the H+C and part of the Met to see a serious fall , as of course , planned. Certainly what I call "Paddington Suburban" seemed very quiet at just before midday.
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I've heard that there will be a special service on the Jubilee weekend Sunday.
I'll go to Slough on that day but Google Maps is telling me to go to Paddington to take GWR for a 07:00 arrival at Slough, while I'm expecting to use the Thameslink to Farringdon and take the the shiny new train. When will it operate?
I'll go to Slough on that day but Google Maps is telling me to go to Paddington to take GWR for a 07:00 arrival at Slough, while I'm expecting to use the Thameslink to Farringdon and take the the shiny new train. When will it operate?
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The BBC are saying the Evacuation at Paddington was because dust was stired up by the passengers triggered the fire alarms.
Nottingham59
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Well at 12 tph each way, that's 126,000 capacity in those three and a half hours. Meaning those trains would have been about 40% full. Does that sound about right?
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Will EL be running (and open to passengers) if the tube strike goes ahead on 6th June?
I take it that there is a minimum timed interval between the two sets of barriers for some reason?
We could ask Jacob Rees-Mogg
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Not surprising considering the northern line is quite a distance from Liverpool Street.
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If that's based on gate data I'll be 4 of those people having touched in and out at different stations.
Good to see everyone enjoying themselves. Lots of good will and only one grumpy "what's all the fuss about" comment.
Quite an exciting day across the Crossrail network - the staff seem very happy, Geoff Marshall perpetually being surrounded, and even got in a quick chat with Mark Wild. Commuters seem to already be using it - guy sat next to me said he'd been waiting 10 years!
By about midday all the gates/bridges had been opened up, so connecting with a paper travel card should be fine.
By about midday all the gates/bridges had been opened up, so connecting with a paper travel card should be fine.
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I thought I'd give it a try next Sunday, but there's no service on Sundays. Why's that?
Forgot to say, no service to Abby Wood on Sundays.
Other than the Platinum Jubilee weekend, there is no Sunday service at the moment for ongoing testing and integration work, ready for through running to start in autumn 2022.
norbitonflyer
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I noticed at Liverpool Street that the signage made a clear distinction in the signage between the Underground lines (Central, Circle etc) on one sign, and "National Rail, Overground and Elizabeth Line" on another (OG and EL are thgerefore correctly grouped as part of NR)
Starting the day at Gunnersbury, I noted that the District Line diagram there showed interchange at Whitechapel with the Elizabeth Line, but the Overground diagram showed interchange at Stratford with TfL Rail.
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About 225m. Earlier discussion about here:
Which core Crossrail station do you think will get the least usage?
Just for fun, which core station do you guys think will have the least usage per annum over the next few years? My money is on Custom House.
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I’m there on Saturday and will be using contactless. Is it permissible to whizz up and down for a while without tapping out until I’m ready to leave, albeit from a different station?
Having a real test of the evacuation procedures on day 1 might not be a bad thing.
It's interesting that people don't seem to rate Canary Wharf - I found it (+ Paddington & Woolwich) more interesting than the big, samey concrete caverns between Tottenham Court Road - Whitechapel! They're impressive but a bit "meh", the others at least all feel more unique!
They were on the same train as us from Woolwich Arsenal to Abbey Wood to connect with the first EL departure from there (I think the Premier Inn Woolwich Arsenal must have been full last night
Funny how we were told on arrival at Abbey Wood to join the end of the queue and as a result could not travel on the first train, yet his crowd somehow managed it
Not everyone who was with Geoff got on at Abbey Wood. After arriving with Geoff on SouthEastern and being directed to the queue outside, JenOnTheMove bailed out and got a PHV to Woolwich, joining the first train from Abbey Wood at Woolwich.
65,000 was the confirmed figure.
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Watch your timing carefully, avoiding the maximum journey time, and that’ll do nicely.
Partially true but yes ultimately it was due to passengers travelling through areas that hadn't been touched en masse continuously to that extent! The evacuation seemed pretty smooth really - only 30 minutes with passengers detrained at Tottenham Court Road and services passing through Paddington (to reverse at Westbourne Park) until station reopened.
norbitonflyer
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It's about 150 metres, in an almost straight line. Unfortunately neither station has a sign projecting out into the street so they are not actually visible from each other. I got thoroughly lost between the two!
Interchange at Abbey Wood is a lot easier.
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