Yes - the station was open for emergency exit only so needed trained staff to assist with the evacuation from the station. As well as some other mitigation actions.
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Yes - the station was open for emergency exit only so needed trained staff to assist with the evacuation from the station. As well as some other mitigation actions.
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iphone76
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Definitely not. No public service on the 23rd in the central operating section. They are running another (final) test of the East/West interfaces on the 23rd.
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So is Bond Street opening on Monday 24th?
iphone76
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Yes. Thats the plan.
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Yes, just had that confirmed on TfL’s weekend travel advice email.
I’ll be interested to see what effect it has. I currently use the EL between Farringdon and Paddington around mid-morning and in the reverse direction about 8pm.
People heading from Bond Street tube station to Paddington currently have two options
a) Central Line 4 stops to Notting Hill Gate, change to District/Circle line 2 stops to Paddington or
b) Jubilee 1 stop to Baker Street, change to Circle/Hammersmith & City line 3 stops to Paddington
From Monday they’ll have
c) a direct train 1 stop to Paddington
Expecting to see a lot of ridership on this section next week!
Or, what most people do:
Jubilee 1 stop to Baker St, cross platform interchange to Bakerloo for 3 stops to Padd.
But yes, they’ll all go to the EL when it opens at Bond St.
It also depends on exactly where they are going - it's only about a 25-30 minute walk between the two.
You could also walk to Lancaster Gate and take the tube. Or Bakerloo to Oxford Circus and walk.
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Oops. Forgot that option.
But won’t at least some of those coming from stations west of Bond Street on the Central or Jubilee lines, who want Paddington, change at Bond Street? They’re going to have to make at least one change anyway, so it makes sense surely to make that change where it leaves you one short trip to Paddington?
coppercapped
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Eh?
If one is coming from west of Bond Street on the Central then the existing change at Notting Hill Gate to the Circle or District is still available and avoids the dog's leg and extra time travelling via Bond Street. Alternatively get out at Lancaster Gate and walk the couple of hundred yards like many people do. Marble Arch is also west of Bond Street so from there one can walk or take a bus.
By 'west of Bond Street' on the Jubilee do you mean the line from Stanmore? If the answer is 'yes' then change at Baker Street for a Circle or Hammersmith and City train.
Easy peasy...
Once Bond Street opens and through running commences there will be three different direct journeys between Bond Street and Stratford
I suppose there are a few other places on the network where this is also true (especially if you count clockwise/anticlockwise on the Circle as two different journeys) but it's interesting nonetheless!
I suppose there are a few other places on the network where this is also true (especially if you count clockwise/anticlockwise on the Circle as two different journeys) but it's interesting nonetheless!
When the Crossover Transit was proposed, many people commented that there already three railways from Euston to Stockwell.
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Presume you meant “Cross River” and got autocorrected?
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There are four routes from Finsbury Park to Kings Cross if you count the Thameslink from St Pancras as well.
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No, they didn't do it for the main one.
The timetable has been released for through running. It seems there will even be times on the eastern side where trains will have to wait to enter the central tunnels (or go very slowly through). Stratford to Whitechapel have sometimes 7-8 minutes between them rather than 5.
Not the end of the world but not something I knew was happening. I wonder if this will disappear later on?
Not the end of the world but not something I knew was happening. I wonder if this will disappear later on?
Could only find a few in the morning peak 0750-0900. I presume it’s a pathing issue/conflict at Stepney Green junction/ Whitechapel station as the frequency is higher. Might also be because it’s not an even 24tph but 22tph for now.
These are few and far between on the Pudding Mill Lane portal, there are a couple in the peak periods, due to the sheer number of services they are squeezing in, at one point you have a couple of Shenfield trains in a row and the head way just can't be maintained. I suspect these anomalies largely won't be resolved in the May timetable on the East side. Not a major issue tho, they are rare, and passengers will benefit from the additional services.
And will, I suspect, mean the first "through running" service is later than currently planned.
Probably yes as it will likely be the standard 0700-1900 RMT strike day timetable. In addition MTR will have to redevelop their strike plans to incorporate through running, so might be interesting to see what happens!
Or not as the case may be. Won't it be easier just to delay through running and roll forward the timetable from 3 October instead? Either way, the timetable after 7pm will be what they can run just using units from Plumstead sidings.
Kite159
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That would make sense for the 7th November, running a similar timetable to previous strike days with the services split in 3 again.
Saves having to create a new strike timetable for the 7th to take into account through running at short notice.
True but I strongly suspect it won't be the last strike day, so they may have to come up with something at some point.
Maybe but its already politically and iconically a rather large very event so it would be a rather big let-down with the hype that has gone into it all.
But yes it will probably just be an Abbey Wood-Paddington service after 1900 anyway.
Who suggested delaying through running by a month because of a strike? The discussion is about the service to be provided specifically on 7 November. Assuming everything is on course, through running on 8 November is a certainty, albeit possibly with services starting later than currently advertised.
You will need a special timetable for strike days which is very likely to be three separate sections (basically use thje same timetable as in previous timetables). The day after a strike will be harder if certain lines don't open until later, it just means that the planners will have more work.
So the walk between the Central and Elizabeth line can be done in about 5 mins. Pretty smooth walk with some stairs and the a new passageway. After that escalators down/up to the platforms/exit. Lots of people wondering around in the morning!
samuelmorris
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Apologies if it's been asked elsewhere, but is there a reason why the peak 24tph timetable has been reduced to 20? Is that not happening until full through running next year, or is it just not happening at all? With the current 12tph on each side, presumably now the total is 20, the frequency will be reduced on the outer sections to 10?
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