Piccadilly line being marked as an interchange at the Heathrow stations suggests they expect some people transfer from the Elizabeth line onto it.
Plenty of journeys could be possible this way, e.g. Hayes & Harlington to Hounslow. Not sure they're sensible, but that's not a precondition for TfL maps showing an interchange symbol.
Perhaps not Hounslow, but Hatton Cross might be sensible, depending of course what fare levels are set via Heathrow.
Hounslow is more difficult to get to by bus than hatton cross from hayes.
How exactly? They both have direct high frequency bus services from Hayes & Harlington.
H98 to Hounslow and 90 to Hatton X.
The usefulness of using Heathrow as a connecting rail hub would be very limited.
The Crossrail map should also show that Heathrow 2/3 is a major coach station - people are not only going to the airport to catch planes, National Express operate extensive services from there. Some services also operate from T5.
TfL route diagrams show all interchanges, it doesn't matter whether someone has decided whether the journey is realistic.
The only exception is where lines share an alignment for several stations in a row, then they will only show the first & last stations on the shared segment, plus obvious interchanges.
The Crossrail map should also show that Heathrow 2/3 is a major coach station - people are not only going to the airport to catch planes, National Express operate extensive services from there. Some services also operate from T5.
Not sure how keen HAL would be on encouraging non-air passengers onto their property, from whom they receive no revenue.
I think it is only fair that locals that have to put up with all the disruption Heathrow brings should be able to take advantage of the facilities. We are talking about public transport here HAL does not own it and would be unable to operate without it.
There's a difference between 'Not minding locals who are in the know doing it' (as today) and 'actively promoting or encouraging it' (which was my point by advertising the interchange)
Not sure how keen HAL would be on encouraging non-air passengers onto their property, from whom they receive no revenue.
I'm pretty sure they receive something from the National Express ticket for use of their land/facilities/coach station - plus associated revenue from retail, parking etc etc from coach passengers.
TfL route diagrams show all interchanges, it doesn't matter whether someone has decided whether the journey is realistic.
The only exception is where lines share an alignment for several stations in a row, then they will only show the first & last stations on the shared segment, plus obvious interchanges.
Never seen a NR/HEx symbol for the Heathrow stations yet...
They're not interchanges, as (in 2017) it involves walking out of the Zones.
Stratford International has an NR symbol despite being out of zones (and even did before the rail service there gained Oyster).
According to the crossrail website the 6tph heathrow service is starting in may 2018 not the 4tph in 2018 and the additional 2tph in 2019. It lists 6tph from Hayes & Harlington and Heathrow as starting 2018 curiously it shows only 4tph heathrow going from Hanwell in jay 2018
Have you got a link to that? I'm only seeing a reference to Dec 2019 still.
Is the different number for Hanwell because it is one of the stations that wasn't intended to get all trains stopping anyway?
from May 2018 upto six trains per hour will run between paddington and Heathrow
For hayes and harlington station
http://www.crossrail.co.uk/route/western-section/hayes-harlington-station
OK, it looks like they are updating different pages gradually - I was still on the 'news page' that doesn't make it explicitly clear.
As an example of stale info, the western timetable here:
http://74f85f59f39b887b696f-ab65625...attern-reading_to_central_london_aug_2016.pdf
is still the March 2016 version...
I've sent feedback in asking if it can be updated.