D9000 LSL Railtour

[spyinthesky]

Seemed to be going well but no reports on RTT for the last half hour 11:35.
Anyone on or seen it?

 

[Mainliner]

Looks a bit ominous - and I’m on my way into Newcastle to see it, LOL

 

[JonathanH]

Other trains not reporting along the Tyne Valley line as well today - eg https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:W40411/2022-09-24/detailed#allox_id=1

 

[spyinthesky]

Other trains not reporting along the Tyne Valley line as well today - eg https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:W40411/2022-09-24/detailed#allox_id=1

Hopefully that’s good news, thanks

 

[JonathanH]

Hopefully that’s good news, thanks

Yes, the Deltic trip has reappeared on RTT at Hexham broadly on time after an hour without reports https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U54675/2022-09-24/detailed#allox_id=0

 

[Iskra]

Are both the Deltic engines in use?

 

[JonathanH]

Are both the Deltic engines in use?

No, reported to just be one.

 

[Iskra]

No, reported to just be one.

What’s going on with the second? It’s got to do the Lickey Incline in a few weeks on a railtour, which could be fun on just the one!

 

[43096]

What’s going on with the second? It’s got to do the Lickey Incline in a few weeks on a railtour, which could be fun on just the one!

A Deltic on one engine is very realistic based on their service history. Perhaps for added realism up the Lickey they could get a pair of English Electric’s finest for banking duty?

 

[D6130]

Is the Deltic actually on the train? RTT showing 47 805 and 89 500. Is the latter Network Rail's number for 55 002?

 

[JonathanH]

Is the Deltic actually on the train? RTT showing 47 805 and 89 500. Is the latter Network Rail's number for 55 002?

It is 55022, also known as D9000, and therefore 89500.

Explained here:

INTRODUCTION

The following numbers have been issued by the Rolling Stock Library (RSL) for privately owned diesel and electric locomotives for situations where the original TOPS number has been reused. The third digit represents the power classification and the last two digits are the final two digits of the pre-TOPS number, except where duplication occurs. The only exception is 89212 LUL 12 Sarah Siddons. Not all the preserved/privately owned locomotives are included in the series.

https://features.rcts.org.uk/locomotives/tops-class-89/

In the same way, mainline steam locomotives are registered in the class 98 series.

 

[D6130]

Many thanks!

 

[Pep and co]

Just seen it thunder into Manchester Victoria. Resplendent in BR green livery. Might stick around at Warrington Bank Quay for another look in a while.

 

[desiro350]

D9000 roaring up Shap this morning, looking and sounding absolutely superb.

 

[Pep and co]

Love it we both used the word thundered. Absolutely the perfect description of seeing and hearing one of these legends

 

[Ash Bridge]

Many thanks for the video @desiro350. Very impressive performance from D9000 there considering she only had one of her two power units functioning, 8 coaches + presumably dead 47 in tow I’m guessing the speed was around the 55(ish) mph mark? I wonder how a HST set would compare climbing Shap with only one operational power car?

 

[Mainliner]

A closer look, in Newcastle - nostalgic to see it back on the ECML.

 

[Pep and co]

Just got another closer look at WBQ. Great to see so many out to see one of the greatest still out and about. A real bonus for me as I didn't know about this until it rocked up at Manchester Victoria

 

[NorthWestRover]

Truly the most handsome of diesel locos

 

[DanNCL]

The majority of the Tyne Valley line isn't track circuited so trains only report at a small number of locations. The only place trains would normally report at that this one hasn't is Haltwhistle, but others also haven't reported there today.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

What’s going on with the second? It’s got to do the Lickey Incline in a few weeks on a railtour, which could be fun on just the one!

The preserved Deltics are normally only ever operated on one engine where that provides sufficient power for the train simply to save on engine hours.

 

[Cowley]

The preserved Deltics are normally only ever operated on one engine where that provides sufficient power for the train simply to save on engine hours.

I’m I right in thinking that the 2nd engine only cuts in over a certain speed (maybe around 25 ish)?

From what I’ve gleaned from various other forums it looks like the second power unit on 55022 has had to be removed for further work with a different one dropped in to keep the weight balance correct. I’m not sure of the timescale regarding getting it working on two engines again though.

 

[D365]

The preserved Deltics are normally only ever operated on one engine where that provides sufficient power for the train simply to save on engine hours.

I’m I right in thinking that the 2nd engine only cuts in over a certain speed (maybe around 25 ish)?

Correct and correct. I heard somewhere in the range of 40mph.

 

[Iskra]

A Deltic on one engine is very realistic based on their service history. Perhaps for added realism up the Lickey they could get a pair of English Electric’s finest for banking duty?

I would enjoy that, but unfortunately it’s booked a 47 again.

 

[Cowley]

I would enjoy that, but unfortunately it’s booked a 47 again.

Is the 47 on the back of the tour all day @Iskra? It sounds like the 47 was assisting 55022 quite a bit on some of the departures today.

 

[Iskra]

Is the 47 on the back of the tour all day @Iskra? It sounds like the 47 was assisting 55022 quite a bit on some of the departures today.

Yes it will be and it will actually lead a small section of the tour too- Bridgnorth to Worcester I believe. Well at least those at the rear get some noise too then if the 47 is active! Hopefully it is still the Mk1 set in mid-October. This Deltic looks stunning in its green livery.

The last Deltic tour I did had both Deltic engines functioning and it was a cracker- The Transpennine Deltic Lament between York and Liverpool that was.

 

[Whistler40145]

Although it's great to see D9000 back on the mainline, it's a bit risky sending it out on a charter train with only one engine operating, what if the one and only engine decides to have a failure.

 

[357]

Although it's great to see D9000 back on the mainline, it's a bit risky sending it out on a charter train with only one engine operating, what if the one and only engine decides to have a failure.

That's what the 47 is for.

 

[Whistler40145]

That's what the 47 is for.

Doesn't say much if they've to rely on a Duff

 

[xotGD]

Although it's great to see D9000 back on the mainline, it's a bit risky sending it out on a charter train with only one engine operating, what if the one and only engine decides to have a failure.

Most locomotives only have one engine. Should they always be double headed just in case?