DB Class 60s to be withdrawn

[ExRes]

Not sure if they are covered on another thread, the High Output 66s are reported on the WNXX forum to be 149/156/161/167/171/174/181/183/194 & 221 which are to be re-numbered 66651 to 66660

 

[D365]

So close to the devil’s own loco!

 

[Robin Procter]

Not sure if they are covered on another thread, the High Output 66s are reported on the WNXX forum to be 149/156/161/167/171/174/181/183/194 & 221 which are to be re-numbered 66651 to 66660

So close to the devil’s own loco!

.... I thought exactly the same when I photographed Freightliner 66606 on Friday! The Devil's No.6 rail ride.

What is "the WNXX forum" please? I keep reading it referred to on RailUK. <<< Another railway forum so going to give it a go.

 

[19Gnasher69]

So close to the devil’s own loco!

The whole class is diabolically ubiquitous…..

 

[ExRes]

60024 and 60074 have now joined 60062 in the WQBA stored pool

 

[The_Train]

60024 and 60074 have now joined 60062 in the WQBA stored pool

The hope is gone

 

[Rail Quest]

DB have posted on Facebook about the regearing of the sheds. I've created a new thread to track the regearing and deployment into service:

DB HTE Class 66s

This has been discussed on the DB Class 60 withdrawal thread recently but DB have confirmed they are converting several of their Class 66 locos to have a higher tractive effort, allowing them to fully replace the Class 60s. With the tugs already seemingly withdrawn, DB have confirmed via a post...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[ExRes]

Claims on Class 60 Group facebook this evening that DB are to overhaul 024, 062 & 074 for a return to service, we shall see ........

 

[Robin Procter]

Claims on Class 60 Group facebook this evening that DB are to overhaul 024, 062 & 074 for a return to service, we shall see ........

.... That shouldn't be a surprise because haven't DB already very extensively rebuilt and modified some of the Class 60 in service with DCRail/Cappagh Group?

 

[ExRes]

.... That shouldn't be a surprise because haven't DB already very extensively rebuilt and modified some of the Class 60 in service with DCRail/Cappagh Group?

They did Super60 rebuilds on the DCR and GBRf 60s as well as their own, it's been a while since the last were carried out though which were the DCR ones, 2021?

The bulk of the DB 60s were withdrawn because of engine hours needing rebuilds too expensive to be economic, I've no idea how many hours 024, 062 & 074 have done but it seems odd having a micro fleet operating unless it's temporary until the HTE 66s are all available

 

[Rail Quest]

Claims on Class 60 Group facebook this evening that DB are to overhaul 024, 062 & 074 for a return to service, we shall see ........

I don't believe that at all haha. I can't see what justifies having 3 non-standard (compared to the sheds) locomotives operating heavier trains when the HTE sheds should be more than capable of this.

Even if it's temporary, surely it would be cheaper for DB to double head the trains that need the extra power for the time being than spend a ton of money fixing up three locomotives only to withdraw them again in a few months

 

[marty56110]

Claims on Class 60 Group facebook this evening that DB are to overhaul 024, 062 & 074 for a return to service, we shall see ........

That would be a surprise. 60063 was currently under going overhaul and has been inside Toton for near 2 years, that would of been first on the list to complete if the claims were true, surely?

 

[Gaz67]

Claims on Class 60 Group facebook this evening that DB are to overhaul 024, 062 & 074 for a return to service, we shall see ........

Maybe connected with taking over from GBRF in South Wales , probably need to split those double sheds on the Robeston flows.

 

[Western 52]

Maybe connected with taking over from GBRF in South Wales , probably need to split those double sheds on the Robeston flows.

Robeston trains are far fewer now and mostly seem to be single 66s lately.

 

[Sparkynl]

That would be a surprise. 60063 was currently under going overhaul and has been inside Toton for near 2 years, that would of been first on the list to complete if the claims were true, surely?

It's only the short term - 24 and 74 are operational, just switched off. 24 is still at Arpley coupled to the 4 hopper wagons.

 

[Spaceship323]

Claims on Class 60 Group facebook this evening that DB are to overhaul 024, 062 & 074 for a return to service, we shall see ........

I note that these 3 are not on the latest list of 16 loco's for sale, which apart from 60065 Spirit of Jaguar appear to be all "super" 60's

Disposals

Assets such as locomotives, wagons, coaching stock and nameplates that are surplus to requirements are made available to buy from DB Cargo UK.

uk.dbcargo.com

 

[Gaz67]

Looks like DBs abandonment of the 60s has bought back the age old tradition of banking out of Peak Forest (ICI hoppers last night).

 

[Rail Quest]

Just seen the following VSTP move scheduled for tomorrow - Arpley to Toton which has the headcode 0Z60. Could this be the 60 that's been held at Arpley since withdrawal being hauled back to Toton?

Realtime Trains | 0Z60 0941 Arpley Sidings to Toton T.M.D. | 29/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 0Z60 0941 departure from Arpley Sidings to Toton T.M.D. on 29/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

There's also this move that arrives into Arpley from Crewe TMD beforehand, perhaps this is the loco that will haul her back?

Realtime Trains | 0Z42 0730 Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Arpley Sidings | 29/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 0Z42 0730 departure from Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Arpley Sidings on 29/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Just seen the following VSTP move scheduled for tomorrow - Arpley to Toton which has the headcode 0Z60. Could this be the 60 that's been held at Arpley since withdrawal being hauled back to Toton?

Realtime Trains | 0Z60 0941 Arpley Sidings to Toton T.M.D. | 29/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 0Z60 0941 departure from Arpley Sidings to Toton T.M.D. on 29/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

There's also this move that arrives into Arpley from Crewe TMD beforehand, perhaps this is the loco that will haul her back?

Realtime Trains | 0Z42 0730 Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Arpley Sidings | 29/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 0Z42 0730 departure from Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Arpley Sidings on 29/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

This was indeed for 60024 in the end - it was hauled back to Toton by two sheds:

 

[Cowley]

Thread reopened for @ExRes to update

 

[ExRes]

Thanks @Cowley

News today on WNXX that 60062 has been on the Toton loadbank and is expected to be out today on test runs, rumour is that it is being tested with a view for hire to Colas, as with all rumours we shall see what actually occurs ....


First, and what seems to be only, run seems to have gone OK, 0825 0Z23 Toton TMD to Toton TMD via Leicester

* Obviously it was without fault as it didn't run *

 

[Pkh72]

60062 stayed on Toton today, the proposed test run paths were operated by lone 66’s, 66224 to Leicester and later 66186 to Derby twice.