Disruption on SEML at Sevenoaks 25/9

[2HAP]

Engineering works at Sevenoaks have overrun, meaning disruption to early morning services through the station. Some services from Tonbrigde to London will divert via Redhill. Buses operating between Tonbridge and Orpington.

http://www.kentlive.news/southeaste...ead-tomorrow/story-30520275-detail/story.html

Southeastern rail services through Sevenoaks are set to be majorly affected during peak periods tomorrow morning.

The rail network is warning passengers to plan ahead, after announcing this weekend's engineering works will overrun and affect peak services before 8am on Monday morning (September 25).

 

[phil1960]

Just love the lazy 'copy and paste off the TOC's website' journalism.

Engineering works at Sevenoaks have overrun, meaning disruption to early morning services through the station. Some services from Tonbrigde to London will divert via Redhill. Buses operating between Tonbridge and Orpington.

http://www.kentlive.news/southeaste...ead-tomorrow/story-30520275-detail/story.html

 

[tsr]

The possession is expected to overrun to at least 0730hrs vice 0345hrs. There have been problems with maintaining air quality in Sevenoaks Tunnel, which is where the overrunning works are. This has caused the workforce to delay - and from time to time also pause - access to the site. The scope of the works had actually already been reduced earlier this weekend by previous similar issues, before the overrun could have become apparent. Now, even the revised scale of work cannot be done on time. S&T are still expected to be testing the relaid track long after it should have opened for traffic.

There is also a risk to Southern passengers because extra SE services via Redhill could cause congestion. The impact of this is recognised by the relevant Control teams but the effect is yet to be seen.

 

[theageofthetra]

The possession is expected to overrun to at least 0730hrs vice 0345hrs. There have been problems with maintaining air quality in Sevenoaks Tunnel, which is where the overrunning works are. This has caused the workforce to delay - and from time to time also pause - access to the site. The scope of the works had actually already been reduced earlier this weekend by previous similar issues, before the overrun could have become apparent. Now, even the revised scale of work cannot be done on time. S&T are still expected to be testing the relaid track long after it should have opened for traffic.

There is also a risk to Southern passengers because extra SE services via Redhill could cause congestion. The impact of this is recognised by the relevant Control teams but the effect is yet to be seen.

If the Orange Army find my tape of Def Leppards Hysteria which a bell end called 'bull*****' Bayliss lobbed out of our school train EPB in there in 1988 I would like it back.

 

[2HAP]

Just love the lazy 'copy and paste off the TOC's website' journalism.

FYI, I didn't copy and paste, but typed it out. I thought it might be nice forewarn people of this problem. Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[30907]

FYI, I didn't copy and paste, but typed it out. I thought it might be nice forewarn people of this problem. Don't shoot the messenger.

Think phil1960 was referring to Kent Live not you

 

[2HAP]

Think phil1960 was referring to Kent Live not you

In which case, I apologise. It was early and the coffee hadn't kicked in.

 

[gavin]

Major changes until at least 14:00 now

 

[tsr]

Hopefully completed by about midday now... but yes, residual disruption until mid-afternoon will be likely. I believe Southern will accept tickets in the evening peak, but best to check the SE website.

 

[gavin]

Network rail statement

https://twitter.com/NetworkRailSE/status/912260727825666049

 

[gavin]

2W28 looks like it will be the 1st service through the area currently 80L from Marden will be further delayed if the lines don't open at noon

EDIT

Terminated at Tonbridge

 

[gavin]

Noon handover missed all lines remain shut

 

[gavin]

All lines are now open

 

[tsr]

Noon handover was actually 1207, so a drop in the ocean on the scale of the overrun itself.

The final target for restoring normal service is now just after 1800, but SE very much want to get most of it done before then, if possible.

Looks like Southern will still accept tickets to/from Tonbridge, Ashford Intl and Hastings, and via Oxted, until 2000hrs.

 

[Cletus]

The line between Dover and Ramsgate has also been closed (see picture in link).

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/trains-disrupted-by-car-on-132651/

It is thought the driver took a wrong turn

 

[George109]

Seems to be more disruption tonight as there are more urgent repairs to the railway in Sevenoaks that didn't get finished last night.

Strange as I can't see any line blocks around Sevenoaks on OpenTrainTimes and NRE says disruption between Bellingham and Sevenoaks?

Is this a different thing that Southeastern have also blamed on Sevenoaks?

Due to urgent repairs to the track in the Sevenoaks area, some lines will be blocked. These urgent repairs to the track unfortunately didn't get completed last night and that's the reason for this disruption to these services tonight.
Train services running through the Sevenoaks area will be cancelled or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of service.

 

[theageofthetra]

The line between Dover and Ramsgate has also been closed (see picture in link).

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/trains-disrupted-by-car-on-132651/

Got hit on the crossing and deflected onto the line.

 

[tsr]

Got hit on the crossing and deflected onto the line.

Got hit by another car - not a train!

 

[theageofthetra]

Got hit by another car - not a train!

sorry meant to say that.

 

[Blindtraveler]

A question regarding the origional overrun, is this particular tunnel poorly ventilated generally but able to cope in daily service but not with the plant etc used in upgrade works?
Or is there some other factor at play here?

 

[VWCampervanman]

A question regarding the origional overrun, is this particular tunnel poorly ventilated generally but able to cope in daily service but not with the plant etc used in upgrade works?
Or is there some other factor at play here?

This is a fairly long Tunnel at 1mile, From what I read there was issues with the ventilation fans not working properly . Im assuming that the air quality is monitored whilst engineering workers are inside the tunnel for extended periods.

 

[Bald Rick]

A question regarding the origional overrun, is this particular tunnel poorly ventilated generally but able to cope in daily service but not with the plant etc used in upgrade works?
Or is there some other factor at play here?

All heavy works in anything but the shortest tunnels needs ventilation. Aside from the fumes coming from the plant, there is ballast dust to worry about, plus all sorts of horrible stuff in the track bed (much of which has come out of train toilets over the last 40 years plus since the ballast / drainage was last done) that gets airborne when it's dug up or stirred up.

 

[Expression357]

Seems to be more disruption tonight as there are more urgent repairs to the railway in Sevenoaks that didn't get finished last night.

Strange as I can't see any line blocks around Sevenoaks on OpenTrainTimes and NRE says disruption between Bellingham and Sevenoaks?

Is this a different thing that Southeastern have also blamed on Sevenoaks?

Was an emergency possession to remedy an emergency speed restriction of (I believe) 5mph that had been imposed in giving up the block so the work certainly needed completing.

I believe Network Rail also addressed a defective IBJ within the block.

 

[Expression357]

A question regarding the origional overrun, is this particular tunnel poorly ventilated generally but able to cope in daily service but not with the plant etc used in upgrade works?
Or is there some other factor at play here?

Tunnel is pretty grim anyway, however, reports are that due to poor air quality, the track workers needed to leave the tunnel more often than had been planned for, in order to get fresh air.

Clearly in such a long tunnel, getting out and then back in to position for work to resume, became timely.