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Temple Meads
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I'm not 100% sure, but I take it to mean a DMU, possibly a Class 153.
Indeed, a Dogbox is a nickname for the 153s.
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It is a Class 153.
A class 153 is nicknamed a scateboard around here! Bubblecar is also acceptable.
dk1
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Or a Scud!!
deltic1989
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Round my way they're skateboards, super bubbles and half pints.
I quite often hear them referred to as Tin Rockets!!
tbtc
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...and this is why modern nicknames are a problem because nobody can agree on what to call a class of train (compared to the Good Old Days, when you knew what a Peak etc was)
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Apparently so called because some drivers considered that, when 155's were converted to 153's, the new cab was no bigger than a dogs kennel (dogbox).
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What about 444's? Widely known to be nicknamed by drivers as a..a..a..arkrights! (After Ronnie Barkers charactor in open all hours). Or pendolino's, Voyagers or Turbostars for that matter. Especcially the former.
ValleyLines142
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I've only ever known a 153 to be called a dogbox, although I'm not sure why!
Bubblecars are also the names given to Class 121s; I know for a fact that the Arriva 121 (121032) that works the Cardiff Bay shuttles is called Bubbles!!
Not just a modern phenomenon. Class 08 shunters gronk/pilot/350 class 37 tractor/syphon class 89 anteater/avocet
tbtc
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Something like "Voyager" is fine - everyone knows what one is without any explanation (and there's no "other" name for them*).
(* - well, no polite one anyhow!)
Those are product names though, not 'nicknames'. Arkwrights are a nickname. For example, a 175 has the nickname 'hippo' but using your example of product name we'd call it Coradia.
And for completeness, alternative nicknames for the products you've aforementioned include bendydildos, vomiters and turdostars.
Eagle
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But then people seem happy to use Turbostar, despite that spanning three classes, or even Networker to mean any of 165, 166, 365, 465, 466.
And to use Voyager to mean 221 (but never 222) even though only the 220s are officially Voyagers.
Yes but they do at least look similar. This wouldn't automatically be the case for any new Pendolino class. Don't forget Pendolino trains existed before the 390 and some looked quite different.
222s although related to Voyagers not referred to as them.
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Roylang
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Are they not already getting referred to as Dildos by some?
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Not sure the Avocet was ever a nickname for the 89 as it was its offical name as seen here http://s880.photobucket.com/albums/...current=le890012605902.jpg&mediafilter=images
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starrymarkb
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I love the pedantry in this thread...
It's a bit like Javelin, some enthusiasts hate the 395s being called that!
As for the Euro-Pendo - This is a 1990s model - notice the small windows
(to counter the myth that Branson wanted small windows)
It's a bit like Javelin, some enthusiasts hate the 395s being called that!
As for the Euro-Pendo - This is a 1990s model - notice the small windows
(to counter the myth that Branson wanted small windows)Tomonthetrain
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I love the pedantry in this thread...
It's a bit like Javelin, some enthusiasts hate the 395s being called that!
As for the Euro-Pendo - This is a 1990s model - notice the small windows
Pendos all have small windows, I think its some sort of aesthetic thing Fiat have.
Either way, I like the continental Pendos more than the Cl390s because they don't have wierd faux-organic curves.
starrymarkb
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I know the reason 
The body structure the windows fit between longitudinal ribs, it makes the body very strong for its weight
The body structure the windows fit between longitudinal ribs, it makes the body very strong for its weightI know the reason
Exactly, something cited by Branson as being one of the primary safety factors in the Grayrigg crash. He described them as being "built like tanks".
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