It's the backup plan for if the service doesn't work out.
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East Coast Trains: What are your hopes, fears and predictions?
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Speed43125
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Ahaha, that made me chuckle
southern442
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Would not be surprised if they are all finished, or at least very close to being finished. The service is due (due) to start later this year so they had better get their skates on.
Still more than 6 months to go!
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Remember they have been doing some driver training using Hull Trains 802s, it was reported back in February - but I don’t remember much discussion about it afterwards...
Bletchleyite
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While it is of course totally within their rights, I'm surprised by just how much secrecy seems to surround this project compared with just about everything else on the railway, which tends to be leakier generally than even Bojo's cabinet meetings. Are they concerned about what LNER might do in response if they do let anything slip, I wonder?
There’s really not that many people involved in the operation who know what is proposed.
southern442
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This is true, it's quite a small operation and there aren't many staff involved compared to other goings on in the railway, and their main focus is probably just actually getting on with it, rather than telling people about how they are getting on with it.
greatvoyager
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That seems logical as First are involved in both operators.
gimmea50anyday
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not just hull trains. East Coast staff have also been front ending with great western and TPE and using the 802 simulator at Bristol and the 185 simulator at York. they have also used TPE units between Newcastle and Edinburgh
centro-323
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gimmea50anyday
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is it? so the 60% that isn't accurate is.....
gimmea50anyday
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well Ill take the word of colleagues of mine from within the industry over an individual on an internet forum who has made just one single post to tell me I am wrong......
Other than pricing, boarding and reservations what were you hoping to have learnt by now?
Bletchleyite
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What the interior will be like? Most TOCs tend to be quite quick to show this off with renders etc - though that said there haven't been any renders for Avanti's 80x either, so perhaps it's just a FirstGroup thing?
southern442
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Mind you, Avanti's trains aren't scheduled to be running until 2022 (and even then I reckon it will be 2023 before we see one in service).
I think it may just be that they're a very small OAO with not much of a PR team behind them, more like a small low budget airline or coach company.
I agree, I was hoping for a nice graphic render of the interiors by now. They must have a design somewhere, for the trains to be fitted out in the near ish future
southern442
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I have a feeling it may just be the basic DfT specified standard interior.
One straight out of the standard Newton Aycliffe catalogue.
Yes, but they are paths in the timetable, not paths which will see services from that date.
Thought so, thanks!
I believe they start to run around this time, so probably yes.
centro-323
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Sounds about right
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Noticed this on today's RTT https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C41694/2021-07-31/detailed
Anyone have more info?
Anyone have more info?
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