Moderator note: Split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/why-is-advice-offered-to-those-who-cheat-the-system.194810/ I would echo this But even where the system is clear (or so you would think) there is still confusion. What is the point in having barriers that are then left open. Exited East Croydon yesterday evening and I know I still need to touch out to get charged the fare as I used to live in London. But if you are from "out of town" would you know you get charged the daily cap, or worse if a revenue guy is on the train if you did not touch in, even though you think you have a ticket i.e. Oyster. East Croydon says as you enter it is open 24 hours a day 7 days a week, so why are the barriers ever open? TFL and TOC money making scam?