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Since 1300Due to serious overcrowding it looks as though Avanti are now refusing to convey ‘LNER only’ customers.
Since 1300Due to serious overcrowding it looks as though Avanti are now refusing to convey ‘LNER only’ customers.
Due to serious overcrowding it looks as though Avanti are now refusing to convey ‘LNER only’ customers.
Since 1300
With the MML also shut Luton to Bedford (planned engineering work) as well as the ECML effectively being shut, I'd imagine that the WCML is struggling with all the extra passengers in addition to their own.
Why shouldn't they?People been queuing for over 3 hours at Grantham yet LnER keep sending the trains there. its all well and good issuing a do not travel warning but the reality is that will get ignored simply cos people have no other option. Especially on a Sunday. No win situation.
Because as I've just personally experienced, it's not designed to handle the 1000-odd people currently inside the station?Why shouldn't they?
Not everyone is travelling to London, Grantham is a destination in it's own right, and also an Interchange for Skegness, Boston and Nottingham amongst other places.
I'm on the 1435 Manc- Euston and they were fine with accepting LNER passengers.Allegedly Avanti revoked ticket acceptance after a TM was assaulted this morning, according to the guard of the TPE train I'm currently on, which is carrying displaced passengers.
Because there is a safety risk at the station with hundreds of people and very few staff to control the crowds. That should be relayed to control. Maybe terminate at Newark or Doncaster and use local coach firms there to take people to Peterborough. I suspect coaches and drivers are thin on the ground wherever thoughWhy shouldn't they?
Not everyone is travelling to London, Grantham is a destination in it's own right, and also an Interchange for Skegness, Boston and Nottingham amongst other places.
1A40 has been sat at Newark for about 25mins now.1E16 1300 Edin, KX standing some time now outside of Grantham perhaps waiting for bus que to go down at Grantham.
I guess like 1E16, Grantham too congested from safety perspective or possibly they waiting to get lines reopened. Like I said above LNER website says few more trains running direct out of Kings Cross this evening. 1F88 not left Peterborough yet either. (Edit it has now and signalled onto Joint) 1A87 heading on the up also, I suspect a couple of lines at be reopened soon1A40 has been sat at Newark for about 25mins now.
I've no idea if this X post is accurate but if it's correct it's very concerning:1E16 1300 Edin, KX standing some time now outside of Grantham perhaps waiting for bus que to go down at Grantham.
There is now violence, police involved at Grantham. We are not patient or understanding and unless you get this train stuck outside Grantham moving soon...
This is not extreme or severe weather by any stretch of the imagination. It’s raining and windy like it does regularly in the UK
I've no idea if this X post is accurate but if it's correct it's very concerning:
https://twitter.com/RugbyFella1/status/1733901855149683168
Ah, though now down as "delayed" https://twitter.com/g_uk_notts/status/1733911305323499902?t=t9qSsZyP06AEqP43MUhfXQ&s=19LNER stating that the 1835 North from King's Cross will be the first one to leave - presumably back on the ECML.
Also EMR's 2S27 16:50 Nottingham - Skegness appears to have been held outside Grantham on the line from Allington Jct since 17:24 even though P4 seems to be clear (maybe the footbridge is blocked with the crowds?)1E16 still outside Grantham, 1A40 standing 45mins at Newark NG, 1A87 standing at Retford.
Is platform 3 at Grantham not wired? Wondering why 1E16 hasn't been shunted into the station. (Although I note it's a bimode 5-car + AC 5-car) Also 1A40 is a bimode, presumably can't shunt on to the joint line?
Platform 3 at Grantham only takes 3 cars max. It also has an operating restriction on it so it isn't normally used anymore, though does see occasional use.
Platform 4 needs to be kept clear for the Nottingham and Skegness trains.