Edinburgh-Glasgow QS via Linlithgow suspended

[marks87]

Someone's been hit by a train, which means nothing is running between EDB and GLQ high level.

At least now there's the route via Bathgate. If it's not cleared soon, could they run the 170s fast along that route (terminating at GLQ low level), just to get people moving?

 

[MadCommuter]

If it's not cleared soon, could they run the 170s fast along that route (terminating at GLQ low level), just to get people moving?

Unlikely I would have thought due to lack of driver knowledge covering the low level route and 170s??? More likely they would just direct people to the low level for Helensburgh-Edinburgh trains.
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Current SctoRail advice:

Services between Queen St and Edinburgh are currently suspended. Alternative transport has been requested at Polmont and Edinburgh Park and it is anticipated they will be on site at 20.00. Passengers are advised to travel on train services between Queen St low level -departing at 00 and 30 minutes past the hour- and Edinburgh via Bathgate -departing Edinburgh at 21 and 51 minutes past the hour- or train services between Glasgow Central -departing Glasgow Central at 05 and 15 minutes past the hour- and Edinburgh via Shotts, -the next service departing Edinburgh is at 21.25-.

 

[rail-britain]

Depends on location of blockade
If between Bishopbriggs and Croy, then diversion is possible via Cumbernauld and Falkirk Grahamston
Sadly if between Falkirk High and Haymarket then a partial blockade is more likely
The next issue is if there are sufficient units to operate a shuttle between Glasgow and Polmont / Linlithgow and Edinburgh

During the day it has been done before
Given how late it is in the day, easier to suspend the service and offer alternative routes on existing services, such as via Bathgate or Shotts

 

[CarterUSM]

Someone's been hit by a train, which means nothing is running between EDB and GLQ high level.

At least now there's the route via Bathgate. If it's not cleared soon, could they run the 170s fast along that route (terminating at GLQ low level), just to get people moving?

Don't think there is any point, passengers could just board the electric services anyway, or even the Shotts ones.

 

[marks87]

Depends on location of blockade
If between Bishopbriggs and Croy, then diversion is possible via Cumbernauld and Falkirk Grahamston
Given how late it is in the day, easier to suspend the service and offer alternative routes on existing services, such as via Bathgate or Shotts

If it was between Bishopbriggs and Croy, the Aberdeen services from Glasgow would be disrupted as well.

Services between Edinburgh and Stirling are also affected, so it'll be somewhere between Edinburgh Park and Polmont Junction.
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And now another person has been hit, causing delays between Paisley Gilmour St. and Kilwinning.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/servi...idget&utm_campaign=Twitter*******toDisruption

 

[rail-britain]

If it was between Bishopbriggs and Croy, the Aberdeen services from Glasgow would be disrupted as well

Was pointing out the options depending on location, as it was a complete blockade it was obvious it was between Polmont and Edinburgh from the ScotRail information

Yes, but the delay is minimal as the Aberdeen and Inverness services would simply be diverted via Cumbernauld, then resume
There is a peak time service that uses this route and adds about 5 minutes
For such a delay it would not be worth publishing in advance

 

[OxtedL]

I always find the wide variety of ways that Glasgow-Edinburgh can be traversed slightly amazing... If the Shotts line is electrified and thrown into the Argyle mix then that would be four different ways into central Glasgow from just one route through Edinburgh...

From a completely speculative point of view, is it possible to send trains from Queen Street to Edinburgh via Shotts? Looks like it might be on Google Earth (please don't kill me! ) going Gartcosh-Whifflet-Holyton?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

I always find the wide variety of ways that Glasgow-Edinburgh can be traversed slightly amazing... If the Shotts line is electrified and thrown into the Argyle mix then that would be four different ways into central Glasgow from just one route through Edinburgh...

From a completely speculative point of view, is it possible to send trains from Queen Street to Edinburgh via Shotts? Looks like it might be on Google Earth (please don't kill me! ) going Gartcosh-Whifflet-Holyton?

Gartcosh-Springburn-Queen St High Level or Whifflet-Hamitlon Ctl-Glasgow Ctl High Level or Low Level.

 

[kylemore]

Same thing happened at Milliken Park (again) tonight, Ayrshire services suspended.

 

[jopsuk]

I always find the wide variety of ways that Glasgow-Edinburgh can be traversed slightly amazing... If the Shotts line is electrified and thrown into the Argyle mix then that would be four different ways into central Glasgow from just one route through Edinburgh...

It is pretty amazing- but only one is used by most people for end-to-end travel; the other ones connect the places in between to the cities.

It's pretty amazing given that until earlier this year, there was not a continuous motorway between the two (the M8 has an infamous gap) with the completion of the M80- from the Edinburgh ringroad, the all-blue route uses the M8, M9, M876, M80 and M8 again.

At least the many routes does give some resilience

 

[MacCookie]

Depends on location of blockade
If between Bishopbriggs and Croy, then diversion is possible via Cumbernauld and Falkirk Grahamston
Sadly if between Falkirk High and Haymarket then a partial blockade is more likely
The next issue is if there are sufficient units to operate a shuttle between Glasgow and Polmont / Linlithgow and Edinburgh

During the day it has been done before
Given how late it is in the day, easier to suspend the service and offer alternative routes on existing services, such as via Bathgate or Shotts

Cowlairs to Greenhill and you can go via Cumbernauld.
Greenhill to Polmont Junc and you can go via Falkirk Grahamston.
Winchburgh Junc to Saughton and you can go via Dalmeny (reverse).

All subject to driver route knowledge.
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At least now there's the route via Bathgate. If it's not cleared soon, could they run the 170s fast along that route (terminating at GLQ low level), just to get people moving?

170s aren't cleared along the North Electric Line.
http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/page/Class+170+Route+Clearance

Ewan

 

[michael769]

At least now there's the route via Bathgate. If it's not cleared soon, could they run the 170s fast along that route (terminating at GLQ low level), just to get people moving?

I'm not sure why you would want to.As far as I am aware there are enough 334 sets to run 4x6 cars an hour if needed - so more than enough capacity to meet demand. Journey time is limited by line speed not train speed - so I don't see what 170s would offer even if you could run them.

The only issue is the loss of first class accommodation. But I suspect that most FC passengers will just be glad that they can still make their journey with minimal increase to journey times.

 

[PaulLothian]

Scotsman on line reports:

"THREE people died on Scotland’s railway lines yesterday evening.

British Transport Police (BTP) started two separate investigations following the deaths, all of which were in the central belt.

One person was hit by the 6.30pm Glasgow to Edinburgh train at Linlithgow station.

A short time later a young man and woman were hit by the 7.43pm Ayr to Glasgow train at Milliken Park station in Renfrewshire.

Police said none of the deaths are suspicious."

No further details seem available at present.

 

[Scotrail84]

Cowlairs to Greenhill and you can go via Cumbernauld.
Greenhill to Polmont Junc and you can go via Falkirk Grahamston.
Winchburgh Junc to Saughton and you can go via Dalmeny (reverse).

All subject to driver route knowledge.
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170s aren't cleared along the North Electric Line.
http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/page/Class+170+Route+Clearance

Ewan

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