Edinburgh to Glasgow XC Only

[Kilmarnocklad]

Hi folks, long time lurker, first time poster so please be gentle!

Am travelling from EDB-GLC in a couple of weeks (off a flight into Edinburgh airport) and am planning (with 3 friends) to get an evening XC from EDB.

We intend to get the XC only 1st anytime tickets (£10). If we miss the XC train can we excess these tickets to FSR STD opens? Is there an admin fee for this or do we just have to pay an excess in the ticket office?

Many thanks!

 

[bb21]

Hi folks, long time lurker, first time poster so please be gentle!

Am travelling from EDB-GLC in a couple of weeks (off a flight into Edinburgh airport) and am planning (with 3 friends) to get an evening XC from EDB.

We intend to get the XC only 1st anytime tickets (£10). If we miss the XC train can we excess these tickets to FSR STD opens? Is there an admin fee for this or do we just have to pay an excess in the ticket office?

Many thanks!

In theory, no, as TOC-specific tickets cannot be excessed and you'll have to buy new tickets.

In practice, some guards might do it, but don't count on it.

 

[bnm]

Unfortunately you cannot excess an operator specific ticket up to an Any Permitted one. At least, not officially.....

However both the tickets you mention can be bought on the day prior to boarding, there's no need to buy the XC only 1st Anytime ahead of travel. If you do miss that train then you can just buy the Any Permitted Standard Class tickets.

Oh, and the XC Only 1st Anytime single is £7.50 not £10.

 

[Kilmarnocklad]

Thanks for quick reply! We can wait for the later XC if necessary!

 

[lyesbkz]

If penalty fares don't apply, surely as they're Anytime tickets they could be bought on-board? If there are ticket gates couldn't you just buy them at the station prior to departing, that way if you miss the XC you can just buy Any Permitted tickets instead?

Edit: Beaten to it, just slightly!

 

[bb21]

If penalty fares don't apply, surely as they're Anytime tickets they could be bought on-board?

Yes, you can, unless you want any railcard discount.

 

[Kilmarnocklad]

The reason why we were going to buy in advance, last time I got the voyager from GLC-EDB in first it was full and standing. I think loads of people have noticed XC undercutting FSR. So therefore wanted seat reservations. Might just buy our ticket on the day as suggested on here. Thanks a million guys!

 

[wintonian]

The reason why we were going to buy in advance, last time I got the voyager from GLC-EDB in first it was full and standing. I think loads of people have noticed XC undercutting FSR. So therefore wanted seat reservations. Might just buy our ticket on the day as suggested on here. Thanks a million guys!

I think on XC you can reseve seat up untill 2 hours before the train leaves it's origan station.

 

[Tomonthetrain]

You can reserve up to 10 mins by text prior to it leaving your station on XC

 

[wintonian]

You can reserve up to 10 mins by text prior to it leaving your station on XC

Yes but if the screens aren’t working then it's pointless and I wouldn't want to tell someone who may have been on the train for half an hour that I reserved their seat 10min ago.

 

[All Line Rover]

Unfortunately you cannot excess an operator specific ticket up to an Any Permitted one. At least, not officially.....

However both the tickets you mention can be bought on the day prior to boarding, there's no need to buy the XC only 1st Anytime ahead of travel. If you do miss that train then you can just buy the Any Permitted Standard Class tickets.

Oh, and the XC Only 1st Anytime single is £7.50 not £10.

Hmmm. Unfortunately you are incorrect. There are some quite significant price increases on September 4th! (The OP is travelling after this date.)

• SDS £5.00 - now £7
• SDR £6.00 - now £9 (50% increase!)
• FDS £7.50 - now £10
• FDR £9.00 - now £13.50 (50% increase!)

Those price increases are ENORMOUS! Although, being realistic, the "XC Only" fares were always too cheap and were bound to go up. :cry:

The slightly cheaper "EC Only" fares have also been scrapped because only 1 service a day now operates in each direction. :cry:

 

[bnm]

Hmmm. Unfortunately you are incorrect. There are some quite significant price increases on September 4th! (The OP is travelling after this date.)

Yes, my bad. Apologies to the OP. I neglected to check NFM10.

 

[Kilmarnocklad]

Have spoken to my pals, we will now buy on the day.
If we ARE running late and board the XC and buy on board, will the TM sell us the £10 ticket? Or can they insist we buy the dearer fully interavailable 1st open?

 

[All Line Rover]

Have spoken to my pals, we will now buy on the day.
If we ARE running late and board the XC and buy on board, will the TM sell us the £10 ticket? Or can they insist we buy the dearer fully interavailable 1st open?

There is no reason why he shouldn't sell you the "XC Only" ticket as you are on an XC train. But do make sure you approach the TM straight away, so that he doesn't think you're trying to dodge paying the fare!

 

[codenamecuebal]

the 1st will be filled up and you won't get any food. not worth it

 

[All Line Rover]

the 1st will be filled up and you won't get any food. not worth it

It's only £3 extra!

 

[bb21]

It's only £3 extra!

Also it gives them a chance to judge when onboard depending on whether First is full as to whether the additional expenses are worth it.

 

[yorkie]

Have spoken to my pals, we will now buy on the day.
If we ARE running late and board the XC and buy on board, will the TM sell us the £10 ticket? Or can they insist we buy the dearer fully interavailable 1st open?

The term "Open" is no longer used and has been replaced by "Anytime". The tickets quoted above are Anytime tickets. If the journey is wholly on XC an XC ticket will be sold. Available on board.