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Electromagnets to combat leaf fall?

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edwin_m

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The Metrocars are based on a German design which runs in the streets sometimes and therefore has track brakes. They are probably one reason why Metro can get away with a simplified signalling system where most signals don't have repeaters.

I've been on a Metro that was tripped by a trainstop at nearly full speed while SPADding one of the few signals that isn't at a station. An interesting experience to say the least.
 
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I'm confused by that picture - what is Jean-Luc Picard doing behind someone's garden shed in Oxford? (Along with another man and 3 females)
Clearly on a mission to stop the Borg from preventing first contact.
 

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Surely some serious line side vegetation clearance by NR would be just as effective plus reduce the need for as many RHTTs also?

Remember though that depending where it is the same vegetation prevents landslips - another thing NR have had a severe kicking about in the past 12 - 24 months.
 

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I remember hearing a few years ago that some National Express coaches had some sort of extra braking system, would that be magnetic?
 

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I remember hearing a few years ago that some National Express coaches had some sort of extra braking system, would that be magnetic?

Electric rheostatic brakes are quite common on express coaches. I think one brand name is TELMA. HGVs tend to have exhaust brakes instead.
 

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I havent been on a tram where they have activated - I have been told that the brake force of them is quite severe though!

I have, in Croydon a few years ago when a pair of idiot pedestrians who were totally absorbed in their mobile phones walked in front of the tram at fairly close quarters.

It is indeed a rather sharp stop; there is also a loud clunk as the brakes grip the rails.

Fortunately in this case the tram stopped about 5 feet short of the pedestrians - who still didn't look up... just carried on walking without any sign of awareness at all...
 

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One interesting, albeit extreme, example of eddy current braking is almost all modern roller-coasters. Which should give you an idea of how effective they are at rapidly stopping a vehicle!

Because the braking force is proportional to v (or is it v^2, it's been a while..) they also have no holding force, so I guess its possible that one could stop on an incline, then roll back, if one didn't think ahead an apply an actual brake...
 

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Electric rheostatic brakes are quite common on express coaches. I think one brand name is TELMA. HGVs tend to have exhaust brakes instead.


I hardly ever use the foundation brakes if I can help it. A stalk controls the level of braking which is very useful. Used properly it can control speed on motorways too.
 

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Remember though that depending where it is the same vegetation prevents landslips - another thing NR have had a severe kicking about in the past 12 - 24 months.

It depends on the type of tree and the type of planting. If it's a properly planned and maintained woodland, perhaps put in as part of a housing estate or other work, they're generally good for land stabilisation and slope engineering purposes.

If it's random seeds blown on the wind and landing on one of the many embankments which were either maintained by British Railways or prone to linespeed fires during the steam train period, they tend to have shallow, widespread root systems, they do nothing to stabilise slopes, and have a bloody annoying tendency to fall over and break things, like our nice OLE.

And I know I'm evil, but I take great delight in witnessing home owners endlessly complaining about things the railway is doing next to their home, my favourite story is the home owners who complained their relatively new build house had been ruined by our electrification works (NW Phase 1, IIRC) only for us to find the plans still on the planning system and discover the only window in their house which had a view over the railway line was the bathroom window, which was frosted.

People will try anything on in the hope of a bit of compensation, or things like triple glazed windows which bumps up the value of their house.
 

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Would the use of magnets for braking have any negative affects on axle counters, track circuits, AWS magnets or TPWS grids?
 

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Manchester Metrolink trams have "mag brakes" - I have been next to a tram in a station where they have dropped due to an overshoot, but I havent been on a tram where they have activated - I have been told that the brake force of them is quite severe though!


I have. Going 30mph down Ashton New Road. Stopped almost instantly. A woman stood up in the middle of the tram ended up on her face at the front.
 
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