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End in sight for the ASLEF dispute: Offer now made

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Gemz91

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Apparently the meeting will resume at 14:30.

Not sure we needed a text message telling us they were on a lunch break….. I’m sure most people would have been happy with one message at the end of the day with an update.
 

Jim Jehosofat

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The rail industry is more complicated than the NHS.
For a start, the government isn't the employer, TOCs are.
There are also many different employment contracts, not just one size fits all.
I'd expect there will be a relatively generous pay offer, but with some productivity strings.

"The rail industry is more complicated than the NHS. For a start, the government isn't the employer, TOCs are."

Don't think so. Doctors surgeries are run as independent businesses that happen to receive (insufficient) funding. There are 100s of these; there are not 100s of TOCS.
 

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Don't think so. Doctors surgeries are run as independent businesses that happen to receive (insufficient) funding. There are 100s of these; there are not 100s of TOCS.
The comparison was with the rapid offer in the junior doctors' dispute.
I think they are more likely to be on direct NHS government-set contracts (happy to be corrected).
That dispute is also arguably more socially disruptive then the ASLEF dispute.
 

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"The rail industry is more complicated than the NHS. For a start, the government isn't the employer, TOCs are."

Don't think so. Doctors surgeries are run as independent businesses that happen to receive (insufficient) funding. There are 100s of these; there are not 100s of TOCS.

"Junior doctors" (a misnomer; it's anyone who's not a consultant) don't work in GP surgeries, they work in hospitals and are directly employed by the NHS trusts.

Dealing with the GP pay issue is likely to be more complicated than even the railway because each surgery or group thereof is an independent business.
 

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Not sure we needed a text message telling us they were on a lunch break….. I’m sure most people would have been happy with one message at the end of the day with an update.
Considering these meetings seem to be bi-weekly, a temporary adjournment probably means back next week.

RMT expecting offer to consider on the 20th so I reckon will be the same for ASLEF.
 

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RMT expecting an offer on 22nd August with regards Network Rail Signallers, Maintenance and Control, more talks that have gone on, and on, and on.
 

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Let’s hope an email is sent out later today with more details about what was discussed.

Absolutely… wait out for Union comms.

No point speculating until we have the facts.

Tuesday sure does seem a LONG way away now :lol:
 

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Absolutely… wait out for Union comms.

No point speculating until we have the facts.

Tuesday sure does seem a LONG way away now :lol:

But no strike announcements until at least Tuesday. Hopefully never again.
 

manmikey

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Absolutely… wait out for Union comms.

No point speculating until we have the facts.

Tuesday sure does seem a LONG way away now :lol:
As long away as today seemed when they said last week that there would be an offer "next Wednesday"
 

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As long away as today seemed when they said last week that there would be an offer "next Wednesday"
It has been a long few weeks since Louise Haigh promised to sort this. But a positive start and things seemingly appear to be moving, even if it’s apparently stagnated today.

I’m hoping that they’re just exploring every option, and that ASLEF are actually helping the DfT with a solution, rather than the stalemate due to weaponised incompetence displayed by the previous governmental administration.
 

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It has been a long few weeks since Louise Haigh promised to sort this. But a positive start and things seemingly appear to be moving, even if it’s apparently stagnated today.
Been a long few weeks but there's been more positives signs in those few weeks than there has been in the last few months/years. I'd suggest hanging on and hoping for the best before throwing arms in the air personally and calling it all over!
 

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Been a long few weeks but there's been more positives signs in those few weeks than there has been in the last few months/years. I'd suggest hanging on and hoping for the best before throwing arms in the air personally and calling it all over!
Louder for the people at the back!
 

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DfT Offer To Aslef

2022 5 percent 2023 4.75 percent 2024 4.5 percent.

To be put to referendum. Expect this is to be accepted. No changes to Ts and Cs.
 
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Train92

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Excellent result! Well done everyone!!!! Great effort and perseverance during the last 2 1/2 years! Proud of us all!
 
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