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Did these trains have a bar when they were first introduced on the BeNeLux?
Did these trains have a bar when they were first introduced on the BeNeLux?
Source: OV in NederlandNS Reizigers
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- Utrecht - 's-Hertogenbosch - Eindhoven (serie 800 / 2900 / 3500 / 3900)
- Utrecht - Veenendaal-De Klomp / Ede-Wageningen / Arnhem (serie 3000 / 3100)
- Utrecht - Zwolle (serie 500 / 600)
- Zwolle - Almere Centrum (serie 700 / 1800)
- Zwolle - Deventer (serie 3600)
- Deventer - Apeldoorn - Amersfoort - Utrecht / Hilversum (serie 1600 / 1700)
- Rotterdam - Schiphol (serie 900)
- Rotterdam - Roosendaal (serie 2200)
- Rotterdam - Breda (serie 1100)
- Rotterdam - Antwerpen-Centraal (serie 9200)
Many thanks for the information. That's very useful to know. I will look out for them next time i am travelling in the Netherlands. Interesting to see how they seem to stay away from the Amsterdam area on a lot of those routes. Do you know if there is a price list available anywhere? I am quite interested to know how much they charge and if it is overpriced like catering on trains in the UK or if it is fairly good value?
E' previsto per lunedì 4 febbraio l'avvio delle attività di pre-esercizio per gli ETR.700 ... Le prime corse si svolgeranno tra il 4 ed il 5 febbraio fra Milano Centrale e Pescara percorrendo l'alta velocità fino a Bologna... si presume che gli ETR.700 debbano entrare in servizio la prossima primavera, con i collegamenti Milano - Ancona - Pescara - Bari - Lecce. ...
Tramontata l'idea di affidare gli ETR.700 ai servizi Frecciarossa ... nella nuova livrea prevale il colore argento, lasciando quindi intendere la futura assegnazione di questi rotabili ai servizi Frecciargento
So it’s looking like a new service then, as far as I’m aware there is currently no Frecciargento service from Milan past Ancona, only the Frecciabianca and Frecciarossa.An article over at ferrovie.it http://www.ferrovie.it/portale/articoli/8173 says the first ones are about to start "attività di pre-esercizio" which I take to be pre-service running/trial runs Milan/Pescara from today (4 Feb), and it now looks likely they will be branded as Frecciargento (not Frecciarossa), entering service next spring on Milano - Ancona - Pescara - Bari - Lecce services.
Trenitalia has begun test running with one of the 17 AnsaldoBreda V250 trainsets which it acquired cheaply following their short and troubled life on Fyra services in the Netherlands and Belgium. The first test run left Milano Centrale for Bologna Centrale at 20:30 on February 4.
The trainsets are now designated ETR 700. Trenitalia is planning to use them this summer on the Adriatic coast route, which has been upgraded to permit 200 km/h operation. The Milano – Bologna – Ancona – Pescara – Bari – Lecce route is expected to be the first to be operated using V250 trainsets, followed by Venezia – Bologna – Bari – Lecce.
NS and SNCB ordered 19 V250 trainsets in 2004 to operate high speed services between the Netherlands and Belgium, but following a series of high-profile failures they were rejected by both operators in early 2013. The fleet was repurchased by the manufacturer, and remained the property of its parent company Leonardo after being excluded from the sale of AnsaldoBreda to Hitachi Rail Italy.
In August 2017 Trenitalia acquired 17 of the trainsets in a deal which includes five years of maintenance with an option for a further five years. At the time Trenitalia said this was a ‘bargain purchase, taking advantage of a particularly advantageous opportunity available for a very short time at a price considerably lower than market prices’. Two sets were to be used for spare parts.
The trainsets’ 25 kV 50 Hz and 3 kV DC capability makes them suitable for operation throughout Italy, and Trenitalia hopes that technical changes will enable them to be operated reliably on medium-speed routes.
Al momento in cui scriviamo, sono stati consegnati i treni 04, 05, 10, 12, 14, 15 e 16, quest'ultimo impiegato finora solo per prove ed attualmente rientrato in Hitachi.
What could possibly go wrong with putting these pieces of hideous junk into service in December?! Not like it’s been tried before...Another article (in Italian) on ferrovie.it, with the ETR700s going into squadron service using the high speed line from the new timetable (15 Dec 2019). 7 services each way between Milan and the Adriatic Coast (Taranto, Bari, Lecce etc.):
http://www.ferrovie.it/portale/articoli/8951
They’re still an utterly hideous design that fell out of the ugly tree, hit every branch on the way down...... and was then smashed in the face with a pan.As they've been almost entirely rebuilt under tight japanese control, one can hope that the second introduction will be less dramatic than the first...