Excessing ticket

[Conn]

Hi, I need a bit of advice about whether I can excess a ticket and therefore save myself some money.

I have a meeting in London on Tuesday afternoon and the company I am visiting will pay for my return ticket from Leeds.

Following my meeting, I need to travel to Exeter on Tuesday evening and then I need to travel to Edinburgh on Wednesday afternoon.

Can I excess the Leeds - London return at all to make this cheaper for me?

 

[Emyr]

Exeter is a dubious routing for London-Edinburgh, so a valid overnight rest-stop is not an option.

As I understand them, an excess of your London-Leeds return component would imply converting your Leeds-London outbound to an Exeter-London ticket. Probably not valid, or not affordable.

 

[Merseysider]

Surely an over-riding excess could be applied to the outbound before travel allowing Leeds - Exeter? NRE shows that Leeds - London - Exeter can be done on one ticket.

Edit: That said, splitting at London works out cheaper anyway, especially so if you travel via Taunton.

 

[Hadders]

An over distance excess of the return portion to Edinburgh would save some money, if it could be obtained.

Is an over distance excess at both ends possible?

 

[Merseysider]

An over distance excess of the return portion to Edinburgh would save some money, if it could be obtained.

Is an over distance excess at both ends possible?

Officially, one cannot 'excess beyond the origin' but whether that means the origin of the outbound, or the origin of the return ticket, is somewhat ambiguous.

 

[Conn]

Thanks for your thoughts

 

[yorkie]

Hi, I need a bit of advice about whether I can excess a ticket and therefore save myself some money.

I have a meeting in London on Tuesday afternoon and the company I am visiting will pay for my return ticket from Leeds.

Following my meeting, I need to travel to Exeter on Tuesday evening and then I need to travel to Edinburgh on Wednesday afternoon.

Can I excess the Leeds - London return at all to make this cheaper for me?

Are you saying you want to do:

Leeds - London (Tuesday afternoon)
London - Exeter (Tuesday evening)
Exeter - Edinburgh (Wednesday afternoon)

There is no mention of Edinburgh - Leeds, do you require that?

Is there any way that your work will reimburse you to the value of a Leeds - London ticket if you actually buy a Leeds - Exeter ticket? If they will do this, I'd buy a Leeds - Exeter return, with a change of route excess for the outward portion to permit the outward journey to be made via London.

If they will not, then it's £100.80 for a Super Off Peak Return Leeds-London, and £80.50 for London - Exeter, so I have to question whether it's worth trying to faff about with an over-distance excess to a £179 through ticket.

That said, I don't know if you want to be travelling at times which may be restricted to any of the above tickets.

 

[Merseysider]

There are actually advances available London - Exeter and back at £20-£35 each which if convenient, would eliminate the need to excess.

 

[Romilly]

Thinking also about the Scottish leg of your travels, a £208.50 Haymarket-Exeter super offpeak return "via London" would be valid for:

1045 Leeds-Kings X 1300

Paddington-Exeter departing at 1636/1703/1733/1803/1835/1945/2145

Exeter-Haymarket via London departing no later than the 1359.

That would just leave you needing a ticket for Edinburgh-Leeds (assuming you are returning to Leeds).

Between London and Haymarket, the £208.50 ticket is valid from Euston via Carlisle, from Kings X via Newcastle & Edinburgh, and even via Birmingham.

 

[Conn]

Due to a change of plans I will now not be going to Exeter.

I'm thinking of buying a standard off peak return from Leeds to London on the Tuesday. I will now head to Edinburgh on the Tuesday evening direct from London, I think I might be able to excess the ticket from Doncaster onwards as this is the point at which the route diverges.

I'll be buying an advance for Edinburgh back to Leeds on the Wednesday evening.

 

[John @ home]

I think I might be able to excess the ticket from Doncaster onwards as this is the point at which the route diverges.

I don't think an excess fare is appropriate in these circumstances. See Excesses in our RailUK Fares & Ticketing Guide.

Your Leeds - London return ticket is valid to return London - York because London - Leeds via York is a permitted route.

I'll be buying an advance for Edinburgh back to Leeds on the Wednesday evening.

If the cost of York - Edinburgh and Edinburgh - Leeds fares is more expensive than you plan to pay, consider travel via Appleby. TPE offer Advance tickets Bingley - Edinburgh at 5 price levels from £15 to £28 each way, travelling Bingley - Appleby - Edinburgh. Leeds - Bingley is £3.80 each way.

 

[yorkie]

I think I might be able to excess the ticket from Doncaster onwards as this is the point at which the route diverges.

An excess doesn't apply "from" an intermediate point.
And, as John says, London-York-Leeds is a permitted route.

The most appropriate flexible way to do these journeys is to obtain online half-price Super Off Peak Singles Leeds-London and London-Edinburgh on the East Coast website.

Is there any way your work will re-imburse you to the value of the Leeds part of your journey?

 

[Conn]

An excess doesn't apply "from" an intermediate point.
And, as John says, London-York-Leeds is a permitted route.

The most appropriate flexible way to do these journeys is to obtain online half-price Super Off Peak Singles Leeds-London and London-Edinburgh on the East Coast website.

Is there any way your work will re-imburse you to the value of the Leeds part of your journey?

Have spoken to someone in the office and they are happy to pay what would be the cost to go to Leeds and then I can just get a ticket direct London - Edinburgh