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Fantasy Open-Access

Should ordinary people have more power over how train companies operate? (eg. routes)

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hairyhandedfool

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You would only have access to platform 3 at Brighton, Platforms 4 does not have access to the line to Worthing and 1 & 2 are Worthing bound only.
 
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... And Brighton p3 is 4-car only if going to Hove/Worthing (8 car if going to Gatwick Airport/Lewes).
 

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My recollection is that Brighton has 12 car platforms and the signal on P3 for Worthing is around halfway along the platform (approx. 6 car point), am I mistaken?
 

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My recollection is that Brighton has 12 car platforms and the signal on P3 for Worthing is around halfway along the platform (approx. 6 car point), am I mistaken?

I'm fairly sure 3 is shorter than the others, and Quail gives 4/8 lenghts. I'll try and check.
 

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What I would like to see is a Crosscountry service from Edinburgh to Plymouth eg 1505 dep from Edinburgh starting from Inverness at 1110 and calling all stations between Inverness and Perth then the following pattern to Edinburgh-Gleneagles,Dunblane,Stirling,Falkirk Grahamston,Haymarket and Edinburgh!
 

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Would have to be either a 4 car 450 or a 4/3 car 377 then.

A varient of this service operated before between Eastbourne and Littlehampton or Hove at peak times, but i believe it was withdrawn when Southern took control.
 

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As its Fantasy - i propose a "Super" Coastway service which would call as follows -

Hastings (For Tonbridge and Ashford lines),
Bexhill* (Not every service)
Eastbourne,
Lewes (For Seaford),
Falmer* (To serve new Falmer stadium on matchdays)
Brighton (For BML and slow Coastway services),
Worthing,
Barnham (For stations to Horsham and Littlehampton),
Chichester,
Havant (For Portsmouth Direct Line),
Portsmouth & S'Sea - Low Level (For Harbour and Hovercraft),
Fratton,
Fareham,
Eastleigh (Reverse and for Basingstoke, Reading and London),
Southampton Airport Pkwy,
Southampton Central (For Salisbury and slow services)
Brockenhurst (For Lymington/connections to IOW)
Bournemouth,
Poole,
Dorchester (For HOW line)
and Weymouth

Full service would run 3 times a day each way (4th journeys from Weymouth and Hastings terminate at Brighton). Each journey ran by 1x 5-car 444. Would run to/from Ashford but it would require a loco and wouldnt be cost-effective for 3 journeys a say. Southern will probably object as it runs along both their Coastway routes and it would cross Brighton, SWT would object as their services run from Eastleigh to Weymouth and FGW may object. May also be problems as Southampton gets congested and the service would stop all services in and out of Brighton whilst it crosses to get to or from Platform 3/4 there.


Am I correct in recalling that in the 1970s there used to be a Saturdays-only Hastings to Exeter service running via Brighton, Southampton and Salisbury? IIRC it was formed of a pair of Hastings thumpers.
 

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Here is a map of my fictional operator (map not attached yet :) )

Please use this map as a template: (below)
 

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Class172

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Here's my first one: Fictional Open Access Operator - Severn & Thames Railway
 

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HST Power

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I think you have to use the map to show where your own fantasy railway company would go.

I'll have a think about this!
 

Class172

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Sorry about the poll :oops:- limited space for question. It's completely irrelevant. What I was trying to say was should people be able to influence how a TOC or OAO operates - as in they can choose the rolling stock, routes they operate, timetables, station facilities...
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i think you have to use the map to show where your own fantasy railway company would go.

I'll have a think about this!
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HST Power

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Sorry about the poll :oops:- limited space for question. It's completely irrelevant. What I was trying to say was should people be able to influence how a TOC or OAO operates - as in they can choose the rolling stock, routes they operate, timetables, station facilities...

I think for how the routes are operated and timetabling, yes. The ones who use the railway should be able to have influence.
But as for rolling stock and the like, leave it to the company.

I'd love to be able to modify the timetables! ;)
 

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Now back to fantasy open access talk:
My next wacky idea that involved thinking of two random places; Cardiff-Norwich
 

HST Power

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I'd love to see HST's working from Potters Bar to Cambridge. Though it would never happen!
 

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You ruined my thread :( (jk)

No, seriously, I may actually take advantage of that map, and come back to you a bit later. Is it the same map as the Route Coverage map? EDIT: The attachment title would certainly suggest as much.

P.S.: You wanted a better Poll question; how about "Should the public have more control over TOCs' operations and services?"
 
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Class172

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Ivo said:
You ruined my thread :( (jk)
Yeah, sorry about that :)

Ivo said:
No, seriously, I may actually take advantage of that map, and come back to you a bit later. Is it the same map as the Route Coverage map? EDIT: The attachment title would certainly suggest as much.
it is the route coverage map, 'routes covered' could actually mean routes covered by operator :)
 
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