Fastest Train

[The Planner]

Cov to Milton Keynes is quicker than that WTT, 25½, 24½ if you knock out the engineering allowance.

 

[Eagle]

...24½ if you knock out the engineering allowance.

That would be 108 mph.

 

[Welshman]

Not too long ago, you could do London to York in 1hr 42mins. Average speed of over 110mph.
Thats called progress!!!

I remember the 1500 off the Cross used to scheduled first stop York at 1642, and eventually scheduled into Edinburgh at 1859.

But did it ever achieve those timings with any regularity?

 

[gary47]

Stafford to euston 132 miles in 1 hour 15 works out at 105.6 mph

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Cov to Milton Keynes is quicker than that WTT, 25½, 24½ if you knock out the engineering allowance.

The 1757 and 1857 Euston-Glasgow are first stop Tamworth in 61.5min (WTT) at 107.3mph for 110 miles.
They have 2min engineering allowance or 59.5min net, so on a good day that's 110.92 mph.

If there was a Watford-Tamworth non-stop that might be the fastest potential WCML run with the current speed profile.
Might also shave a bit more off when Bletchley resignalling is done.
The 90-110 drag from Rugeley to Norton Bridge knocks out longer very fast runs, maybe that will improve with the Norton Bridge scheme.

 

[Essexman]

I did Euston - Warrington in 100 minutes the other day. 109 mph for 182 miles.
Timetable shows it taking 104 minutes (105 mph) - but with same arrival & departure times, so I assume working timetable is a bit less.

 

[sonic2009]

What about the 1630 Euston to Glasgow? is this a contender?.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

What about the 1630 Euston to Glasgow? is this a contender?.

Euston-Preston is 209mi 08ch booked for 2h00, so roughly 104.5mph. Having said that, it can be done well sub-2h, sometimes 1h56 if you get a good run non-stop. Similarly I have been on trains ex-Euston that have arrived four minutes early into WBQ. For that AFAIK you need a perfect (-ish) run.

North to GLC is 192mi 26ch in 2h08, so the average speed there is much lower.

 

[dangie]

Stafford to euston 132 miles in 1 hour 15 works out at 105.6 mph

Milepost on platform 2/3 waiting room is 133.5 so average speed is err...... a bit faster..!!

 

[dk1]

I remember the 1500 off the Cross used to scheduled first stop York at 1642, and eventually scheduled into Edinburgh at 1859.

But did it ever achieve those timings with any regularity?

Elaine Holt did say at the re-launch of the current Flying Scotsman that the INTERCITY Scottish Pullmans (06.00up/15.00dn) which had 3h59m schedules only actually achieved this around 30% of the time. I often, when bored at work, used to check TRUST to see how they performed & i would say she is abought right. One of the quickest & better performers was the 07.20 ex-Leeds (Wkf only) which was often into The Cross at 09.15 (4 early) & the 07.50 Kgx-Lds (with an additional Svg pick-up) which often arrived Lds by 09.50 (7 early).

 

[D1009]

Elaine Holt did say at the re-launch of the current Flying Scotsman that the INTERCITY Scottish Pullmans (06.00up/15.00dn) which had 3h59m schedules only actually achieved this around 30% of the time. I often, when bored at work, used to check TRUST to see how they performed & i would say she is abought right.

Not that the current Flying Scotsman is doing any better !