Feet on seats

Discussion in 'UK Railway Discussion' started by Rob F, 13 Aug 2019.

  1. bramling

    bramling Established Member

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    There isn’t really an issue with staff doing it, as they’re slightly more tooled up than the average punter. Whether it’s worthwhile is another matter, as there’s nothing to stop the feet being returned to the seat as soon as the member of staff’s back is turned. Perhaps I’m just getting too cynical as a natural consequence of getting older!

    But punters taking it upon themselves to lay down discipline is a no-no as far as I’m concerned, for numerous very good reasons. Things have certainly turned nastier over the last couple of decades, and this isn’t just perception as where I am the paperwork backs this perception up in terms of the number of fights and similar incidents on trains - some of this may be accounted for by trains having got busier, but the end result is the same, namely more bad people.
     
  2. Sprinter107

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    I must agree with this. Things have got nastier and attitudes have got worse across the last few years.
     
  3. Temple Meads

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    Finally, a little bit of common sense and perception!

    One would think we lived in a completely lawless society from the opinions of some of the posters above. We are all far more likely to die in an accident at home than by being stabbed by one of the 'countless' knife wielding maniacs who inhabit every single train on the network.
     
  4. bramling

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    For the Nth time, it’s *not* about what actions staff may take. They have some degree of authority, and access to a place of safety - either on the train or on a station (and note even this isn’t brilliant on something like a 12-car 700 where one could be 120 metres from the nearest cab). In some cases staff will also have better access to means of seeking help.

    For a random passenger they do not have these safeguards, which makes it rather more foolhardy to go picking an unnecessary potential fight with a stranger. It doesn’t have to be a knife-wielding maniac for things to turn nasty.

    I have dealt with problems that have arisen merely from someone claiming someone else has looked at them in the wrong way. This isn’t fantasy, it’s real life. How many times do we need to repeat that it’s simply not worth it over a seat cover, where like it or lump it people have zero power to force the other party to comply - law or otherwise.

    There’s times in life when it really is best just to let something go, frustrating though this may be. I’m sure we can all think of times when we’ve been part of a group of people all *thinking* something, but there always has to be one person who comes out and *says* it out loud. I have a friend who is always doing this. He made a comment to a woman about her parking badly over a pavement, within a couple of days his car had been keyed. Likewise he had a go at someone over being cut-up whilst driving, and ended up having a full-scale fist up in the middle of the North Circular. In both occasions he was absolutely in the right, but was it wise to kick off - NO!
     
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  5. railfan100

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    In Northern Land the Class 150 recently travelled on was full of foot marks, really quite bad...
     
  6. Tom Maddox

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    Can’t believe this thread has run into 4 pages. It’s a no. Don’t do it. Just get on any bus or train and slap the seat and look at the dust/dead skin/whatever else may be in there escape.
     
  7. Stigy

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    I agree with you. I was replying to another member who was replying to someone else who said Guards should be telling punters to take their feet off the seats.
     
  8. Kite159

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    Problem is some will remove their feet and as soon as the guard goes away the feet return.
     

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